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2007 Meeting Minutes

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Franklin County Council January 23, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Sharon Halcomb Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Marlene Flaspohler Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Mel Wilhelm

Jeff Koch Dale Maxie

Martha Bergman Louis Linkel

Carroll Lanning Thomas Wilson

Eric Roberts

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Officers

a. Carroll Lanning move to nominate Donald “Butch” Williams

b. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – any other nominations; all in favor; motion carried

d. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to nominate Hollie Sintz as vice president

e. Carroll Lanning seconds the motion

f. Martha Bergman – nominate Jeff Koch for vice president

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – Hollie Sintz – 4/Jeff Koch – 3; Hollie Sintz for vice president

II. Calender 2007

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – August regular meeting at 9:00 am with budget hearings to follow at 10:00. December

meeting 11th. Budget adoption set for September 11 at 7:00 pm.

b. Brad Spurlock motion to accept calendar with changes and additions

c. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – motion carried with copies going to the newspapers and radio

III. Minutes (December 12 & 26, 2006)

a. Carroll Lanning move to accept December 12 and 26, 2006

b. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

IV. Resolution 2007-01 / Additional Appropriation

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Hollie Sintz motion to accept 01a

c. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams reads reduction resolution (b)

e. Carroll Lanning move to accept reduction resolution 1b

f. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

V. E-911 Equipment (see attached quotes)

a. Tracy Lightfield – County is in desperate need of needing a new radio system. Over 25 calls in 2005 and 19 in

2006 where it had completely lost everything. At the first of the year it was suggested that we needed to start

doing. Two weeks ago we had critical radio failures during two critical calls. We have had a reoccurring problem

with Verizon through the phone lines. We have had a real problem with Verizon rectofying the problem. We were

one week without E.M.S. frequency. It is just a matter of time before something more happens. Motorola has the

state bid for the 800 system. Dispatch has to have the capability of the 800 system. Dearborn county in on the 800

system entirely now. If there is a regional emergency or the state we can all communicate. Indiana is ahead of

everyone. The main thing for us is the money-where is the money going to come from? Our approx. cut of the

cake is $35,000.00. Don’t know how else it could be funded. There is 911 money, but if we keep using it how will

operate.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – are we at the maximum (land lines)

c. Tracy Lightfield – no, $1.70 for our county. Counties around us is well over two dollars. There is a possibility to

raise land line based on population and use. Voice over IP or Vonage, there is no way to collect that. Our cost just

keeps going up and up. As early as the end of this year we may have to upgrade equipment. They are

implementing text messaging 911 and pictures via phone sent directly to 911. There is a lot of changes in 911 over

the next six or seven months. There will be some federal grants. $201,000.00 for radio’s.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – after I read it in the paper, the next morning I saw on the news about the same thing.

Would this entergrate with Hamilton County?

e. Tracy Lightfield – yes, we just have different terminology. $27,162.00 of that will have to be leased through

Motorola because it is part of the state bid.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – Hamilton co got their money through homeland security. Have you checked into that

g. Tracy Lightfield – Dearborn County was completely financed through Lawrenceburg. The radio’s the deputies

have were purchased through homeland security. If you don’t get ahead of the game, you are going to get the

scraps.

h. Diane Turney – does this have reverse 911

i. Tracy Lightfield – no, but I am looking into that

j. Carroll Lanning – what about maintenance fees

k. Tracy Lightfield – there is a year warrenty and extra consol boards. Already extra parts.

l. Carroll Lanning – on the equipment, are there updates for the cars

m. Dale Maxie – no

n. Eric Roberts – do you need any updates in the car

o. Dale Maxie – no

p. Eric Roberts – with the lease we are obligated to pay all principle and interest where with bank financing we can

pay it (off).

q. Tracy Lightfield – there are restrictions on paying off with a lease, but you are obligated for two years

r. Brad Spurlock – what are you recommending?

s. Tracy Lightfield – the least amount. Don’t know what is going to come down the road. Don’t know equipment

changes over the next five years.

t. Donald “Butch” Williams – how much when we changed the surcharge, it changed about 12,000. now if we raise

the surcharge, how much will that raise. How long from the ok to the installation

u. Tracy Lightfield – the quickest would be four months. We won’t have to worry about the phone line expense since

it is wireless.

v. Carroll Lanning – do you think this is best for the county

w. Tracy Lightfield – definitely

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – maybe Ed could tell us where to start.

y. Tracy Lightfield – in 2005 there was money in homeland security and in 2006 there was no. flip tape one

z. Donald “Butch” Williams – Lilly still giving grants? Drewersburg fire dept got a bunch of money through Lilly.

aa.Tracy Lightfield – they said if you work it just right, you could get most of it paid for (through grants)

bb.Brad Spurlock – have been on the end and they definitely need a new radio

cc.Eric Roberts – the biggist reason we brought this to you was not to ask you to buy the radios, but to warn you what

is going to cost.

dd.Donald “Butch” Williams – I was warned six months ago

ee.Hollie Sintz – not anything we can stop. We cannot not, move forward. Is that something that can come out of

cum. cap.?

ff. Thomas Wilson – I would have to budge for it.

gg.Hollie Sintz – Tracy, you are not going to stop until you get grants?

hh.Tracy Lightfield – right

ii. Kenneth Rosenberger – is the rainy day obligated?

jj. Donald “Butch” Williams – if you got an increase, you will probably need that for something else.

kk.Thomas Wilson – we were thinking about taking salaries out of 911

ll. Donald “Butch” Williams – leave 911 alone, it can’t pay for this.

mm. Thomas Wilson – will commit to one payment per year.

nn.Donald “Butch” Williams- are we approving buying the equipment

oo.Carroll Lanning – it is a must. It is our duty to make sure everyone is safe. Move to purchase Motorola radio

system for 911

pp.Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

qq.Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried. Can we wait until next meeting for financing options

rr. Hollie Sintz – wait

ss. Carroll Lanning – wait until next meeting to see what Eric Roberts can do

VI. Resolution 2007-02 / Transfer of funds

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Martha Bergman – move to approve

c. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

VII. Resolution 2007-03 / loan to government bond #2

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads reslution

b. Jeff Koch move to accept resolu

c. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

VIII. 2007 board apts.

a. Donald “Butch” Williams

i. Southeastern Indiana regional plan commission-have not talked to John Cookendorfer

ii. Park and rec. we appointed (Brad) Stacy in 05 and he should be a four year

iii. Southeastern Indiana Solid Waste District

iv. Area plan commission – Greg Kunkel is the appointee

v. Alcohol beverage boardb.

Brad Spurlock motion to approve appointments

c. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried and I will contact John Cookendorfer

IX. Prosecutor

a. Mel Wilhelm – states that the user funds can only be used 145-4128.00 assistant.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – reviews

c. Mel Milhelm – we have $15,000 coming out of user fees

d. Sharon Newkirk – the 145 is what is getting reimbursed 66%.

e. Mel Wilhelm – citizens want justice in this county and we have to have expert witnesses. I can’t stop filing

charges because we our out of money. I can’t give you more than I’ve got.

f. Kenneth Rosenberger – can we wait until the next meeting

g. Carol L. Monroe – what do I do about payroll tape 2

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – $9,000 doesn’t even begin to cover the expenses for iv-d

i. Mel Wilhelm– the cost of the iv-d.

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – it is getting used. We have a full time employee we don’t want to get rid of and we

have to come up with $7,500.00.

k. Kenneth Rosenberger – move that we take the $7,500.00 out of county general

l. Brad Spurlock seconds

m. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; 2 opposed, motion carried.

X. 2007 salary ordinance

a. Mel – 289 victim assistance coordinator – amend to $7,000.00 (from $5,500.00) to meet grant award

i. Carroll Lanning move to increase

ii. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

b. Mel – 241 community service. Need $125.00 per Saturday, that is what is was paid last year

i. Carol L. Monroe – I just have $100.00 for 2006-do you look at the salary ordinance

ii. Sharon – no

iii. Kenneth Rosenberger motion to change to $125.00 per Saturday

c. Sharon – 145-4125/Phyllis should 24,/ $10.00 off

i. Veronica – taken care of

d. Marlene Flaspohler – my part time makes $9.00 per hour and I want to change it to $9.50

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – you are not asking for an increase.

ii. Marlene Flaspohler – I can supplement her with iv-d

iii. Carroll Lanning – move to increase part time for 101 and title iv-d 316 clerk to $9.50

iv. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

XI. State wide data status

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – received information

b. Sharon Halcomb – 2004 is compliant and I am working on 2005. Sales disclosures are important for ratio study. I

emailed again today. We counted everything by hand. They keep saying I should have more sales disclosures

according to the revenue. I don’t know what else to do.

c. Carol L. Monroe – did we check the dates?

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – on this end we are bending over backwards

e. Sharon Halcomb – we are already behind. We need to move. We have other work we need to do. They say they

are holding Rush County P.T.R.C. We do everything we can.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – you are doing a fine job.

XII. Salary ordinancea.

Donald “Butch” Williams – if you pay by the hour it doesn’t come out right-just add a decimal. Do

salary/biweekly.

XIII. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – “outa here”

Those also present

Mary Grimes Debbie Combs Shytana Whitfield Keith Combs Sally Henson

Veronica Voelker Sharon Newkirk Angie Snyder Diane Turney Tracy Lightfield

Don Vonder Meulen Susan Jones Marvin Ferkinhoff Judge Cox Aaron Freeman

Adam Henson

To be approved 02/27/07

 

Franklin County Council February 27, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Louis Linkel Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Dale Maxie

Jeff Koch Eric Roberts

Martha Bergman

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (January 23, 2007)

a. Carroll Lanning – correction to I.e. = should have been Brad Spurlock. Motion to make correction and approve

minutes

b. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

II. E-911 Surcharge

a. Tracy Lightfield – distributes information in regards to E-911 surcharge (see attached). Commissioners are in

support of this. This is basically the cost of doing business

b. Hollie Sintz – how are you doing on grants?

c. Tracy Lightfield – have applied for one that we qualify for. Did go to a disaster meeting about a month ago and

talked to the grant writer and at that time it didn’t look like there would be anything. Last night at the Franklin

County Chiefs Association (meeting) we talked about them having us over a barrel. Every time you turn around it

is something else. I am required to have some kind of disaster litigation plan. There is so much below the water

you don’t even see before you get there. We did get the money from the wireless board in two disbursements in

the amount of $35,155.97. We have a line for equipment but I will have to come and ask for an appropriation for

that money. At this point if we don’t get ahead of the game now-it just keeps dropping off. Our data lines have

falling down under 8,000 and a few years back it was over 10,000.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – a lot of people saw the newscast – the city of Cincinnati talking about the money they

received from homeland security money. Franklin County is expected to be the back up if there is a major

catastrophe for Cincinnati.

e. Tracy Lightfield – they tie your hands

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – this is the time when the taxpayers need to write their U.S. congressman. Tracy is

asking to raise the 911 surcharge. It would be a .70 per month for all subscribers to a land base phone.

g. Tracy Lightfield – there was a change in the code a few years ago. One of the things they will allow you to

purchase is the reverse 911. If we had to have an evacuation there is just no way to effectively notify everyone that

needs notified.

h. Brad Spurlock – is the state looking at helping the counties with the wireless?

i. Tracy Lightfield – the head of the wireless board was at Fayette County today.

j. Hollie Sintz – did we talk about the towns helping out?

k. Donald “Butch” Williams – we have an agreement with the town of Brookville.

l. Carroll Lanning – how long does it take to in-act this?

m. Tracy Lightfield – 1st day of the 2nd month after its passage.

n. Donald “Butch” Williams – May

o. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to increase the surcharge .70 (seventy cents)

p. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

q. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; opposed (1). Motion carried.

III. 2006 Report BLRWD

a. Ted Stubbs – here tonight to provide you an updated report of last years activities. Distributes report and reviews

with County Council. We did finish the year about 2% above in revenue and about 6½% below expenses. Hoping

to absorb increases without passing that on. The board asked the state to reduce the board from 7 to 9, reducing the

appointments from Union county.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – thanks Ted

IV. Resolution 2007-04, Transfer of Funds

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution 2007-04

c. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

V. Amended Salary Ordinance 2007-03

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads amendments-note the bi-weekly for highway is correct but the yearly salary was

not reduced.

b. Jeff Koch – what is with the highway department?

c. Hollie Sintz – the overtime is depleted for the year. Hopefully this will generate money needed for an emergency.

We are totally out of overtime money. The MVH fund once a month gets draw well over $160,000.00 and this last

month it was $97,000.00. We have to cut and tighten out belts.

d. Jeff Koch – at budget hearings we had someone from the highway come in.

e. Hollie Sintz – at budget time we had a c.d. We spent so much money in 2006 on new equipment.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – how much have we spent in overtime?

g. Hollie Sintz – around $17,000.00

h. Brad Spurlock – don’t think this is very fair

i. Louis Linkel – this is less painful than laying a couple guys off

j. Carroll Lanning – it is better than losing someone’s job

k. Hollie Sintz – it is just temporary.

l. Donald “Butch” Williams – we are not wanting to manage the highway, just hate to see those guys loose the money

m. Hollie Sintz – Louis Linkel did talk to council (Gene Stewart)

n. Brad Spurlock – would like to keep in mind to make it up if we can

o. Hollie Sintz – afraid that highway will end up like general (fund)

p. Donald “Butch” Williams – they done a good job this year.

q. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept salary ordinance 2007-03 and for highway yearly salary be adjusted

accordingly

r. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

s. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; 2 for 4 against 1 abstained. What happens if you lay someone off?

t. Carol L. Monroe – unemployment

u. Hollie Sintz – we don’t have money in unemployment

v. Carroll Lanning – I was in a similar situation. It is better for every one to take a few hundred less than someone

loose a job.

w. Donald “Butch” Williams – how many employees are in Franklin County? Would the balance of the employees of

Franklin County willing to take 2 ½ days without pay? I don’t think so-I understand the highway’s problem.

x. Kenneth Rosenberger – won’t the difference in what they made in overtime make up?

y. Carroll Lanning – could they take ½ day off here and there with pay to get their money back?

z. Eric Roberts – I didn’t sign the resolution and it doesn’t say end of the month it says until further notice. I think it

is a crime to punish those guys.

aa.Brad Spurlock – is there not anywhere else we can pay out of?

bb.Carol L. Monroe – that is up to you; can the overtime money be paid out of rainy day fund?

cc.Donald “Butch” Williams – we are looking at $2,000.00

dd.Jeff Koch – would not have an problem taking it out of rainy day

ee.Donald “Butch” Williams – if this $2,000.00 doesn’t fix it then we will re-visit it again.

ff. Carroll Lanning, Kenneth Rosenberger, Brad Spurlock – agree

gg.Commissioners agree

hh.Brad Spurlock – motion to accept all changes to salary ordinance except the highway

ii. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

jj. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; 1 abstained; motion carried

VI. Additional Appropriation / Resolution 2007-06

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carol L. Monroe – last year there was an ordinance brought before council about over budgets-the elected official

or department head would be personally responsible instead of me. This is one of those reasons why I would like

that passed. Here we sit and council has agreed to let prosecutor spend $7,500.00 additional out of county general

after you told him he could not have it last year. I have to pay it now and if the budget is not approved, council

will have to find somewhere to take that money.

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – don’t remember talking about the additional $2,500.00 he (prosecutor) is talking about

d. Carol L. Monroe – he did not mention that

e. Jeff Koch – want people to come in front of us for an additional

f. Brad Spurlock – motion to accept additionals except for $2,500.00 out of county general and highway

g. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

VII. Brookville Lake Senior Housing / Economic Development

a. Renee Stivers – The State, County, and Town highway did a wonderful job. Last year you had a proposition

before you to sign off on an abatement (tape 2)

b. Jud McMillan – Renee has done the research and believes this is the right thing to do. The best thing to do would

be to do a joint resolution

c. Renee Stivers – we are talking about a 4million dollar project.

d. Ken Nelson – there would be 35 units all senior living community. A section of the building would be a

community room. All units have a full kitchen. The taxable base is sold to an investor. We submitted the

application last year and fell a few points short. One of the things that happened is the REMC has given us a rebate

(appliances/furnaces/etc.). We are putting a package together relying on contributions.

e. Renee Stivers – there are two other in the area-one in Batesville and one in Bright

f. Carroll Lanning – our abatement goes toward our contribution

g. Ken Nelson – yes. We also worked with soil and water last year and we will be picking up some of the water from

the residential. These developments are basis driven so you can do some of the extra things.

h. Renee Stivers – We need Butch (Williams, Council President) to be able to sign off.

i. Carroll Lanning – what will be added – employee

j. Ken Nelson – probably 1 ½ employee but it is a 4million dollar project

k. Carroll Lanning – move to have Butch sign off on abatements for Brookville Lake Senior Housing

l. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion; opposed 2; motion carried

VIII. Southeastern Indiana Regional Planning Commission Appointment

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – John Cookendorfer held that position and he would like to retain that appointment

b. Carroll Lanning – motion to retain John Cookendorfer

c. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

IX. Adjourn

a. Brad Spurlock – motion to adjourn

b. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

Those also present

Susan Jones James Wiler Don Vonder Meulen Tracy Lightfield, E-911 Director

Bev Woodruff, Whitewater Publications Jud McMillin Ted Stubbs, BLRWD

Ken Nelson

To be approved March 27, 2007

 

Franklin County Council March 27, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Louis Linkel Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Dale Maxie

Jeff Koch Eric Roberts

Martha Bergman Eric Roberts

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (February 27, 2007)

a. Hollie Sintz – motion to accept minutes

b. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

II. Additional Appropriation Resolution 2007-08

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Jeff Koch – questions tractor/rainy day

c. Louis Linkel – replaces junk one in Oldenburg. Also-no overtime in highway, only comp. time and they

understand that

d. Hollie Sintz – after talking to Carol’s (Monroe) office, we moved money to cover overtime

e. Carol L. Monroe – thought we could swap-not really suppose to pay salaries out of two funds.

f. Brad Spurlock – how can you buy equipment and not have money for equipment?

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – doesn’t understand the purpose of setting budgets if everything changes

h. Carroll Lanning – the tractor has already been purchased?

i. Hollie Sintz – yes

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – just signed a letter with Lou (Linkel) endorsing grant Renee (Stivers, Economic

Development) is signing (sending to Lawrenceburg)

k. Thomas Wilson – we are out of juvenile money and have a $9,000.00

l. Brad Spurlock – why are we paying and not the parents

m. Carroll Lanning – does family and children pay?

n. Susan Jones – Brian (Campbell) gives them their portion and us our portion

o. Donald “Butch” Williams – agrees

p. Brad Spurlock – why don’t we look at building our own detention center?

q. Carol Monroe – Dale (Maxie) has been wanting to do that

r. Hollie Sintz – motion to accept all additionals and abstains from doing business on rainy day

s. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

t. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried. Now on the rainy day fund. Judge had planned to attend

the last meeting but was caught in a jury trial. He said they were looking into trying to apply for some grant money

(for courthouse) but wasn’t looking too good.

u. Kenneth Rosenberger – could we possibly delay the rainy day for a month?

v. Brad Spurlock – what do we gain? Motion to delay action on additional

w. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; one abstain, one nay, motion carried ($102,881.00 in rainy day).

III. Loan to Health Department Resolution 2007-09

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

c. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

IV. Transfer of Funds Resolution 2007-10

a. Brad Spurlock – motion to accept

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

V. Public Housing Authority

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – refers to letter (see attached).

b. Carroll Lanning – move to reappoint those listed for public housing of Franklin County

c. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

VI. Ordinance 2007-05 (Establishing Enhanced Emergency Telephone System Fee for Franklin County, Indiana)

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – we agreed to this at the last meeting and they now need an ordinance. Reads

ordinance.

b. Jeff Koch – move to accept ordinance 2007-05

c. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

VII. Salary Ordinance

a. Louis Linkel – one secretary has asked to have her hours cut to thirty-four hours (per week)

b. Brad Spurlock – with a reduction in pay

c. Hollie Sintz – right (flip tape)

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – the courthouse works 32.5 and that is considered full time for benefits. Will she still

be considered full time

e. Council agrees to amend salary ordinance at April meeting.

VIII. Dog tax

a. Thomas Wilson – the county can appoint someone to collect the dog tax with money going to our own shelter.

You can charge up to $5.00 per dog. Thought that as the SAC was out he could take care of it.

b. Brad Spurlock – what about incorporated towns?

c. Carol L. Monroe – Susan (Jones) and I talked and thought they could also come into the auditor and get one (dog

tag)

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – refers to code site

e. Carol L. Monroe – right now if something happens (to an animal) the money will come out of county general

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – personally need to do something. When the trustee went out, it was pretty much on an

honor system

g. Brad Spurlock – let them investigate it.

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – pursue investigating it. We need to do something. We all agree we need to pursue it.

IX. Adjourn

a. Carroll Lanning – move to adjourn

b. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; outa here

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Secretary Tracy Lightfield John Estridge, Whitewater Publications

To be approved 04/24/07

Franklin County Council April 24, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Chief Deputy

Hollie Sintz Eric Roberts Auditor: Veronica Voelker

Kenneth Rosenberger Don Vonder Meulen

Jeff Koch

Martha Bergman

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (March 27, 2007)

a. Martha Bergman – motion to accept minutes

b. Carroll Lanning– seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

II. Additional Appropriation Resolution 2007-11

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning- questions the radios for E911

c. Tracy Littlefield – explains

d. Martha Bergman- the operation pullover, is the money in there already

e. Donald “Butch” Williams- it is a grant, Don Smith-operation pullover grant

f. Carroll Lanning- all the money that is coming out of county general is the $3000.00?

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – that is what I thinking, 201 is loan money , E-911is for the radios, $68,000.00 is for the

government renovation,

h. Hollie Sintz-explaining the bridge appropriation, and states the $85,100.00 check needs to be mailed tomorrow

i. Brad Spurlock- what is the $71,118.00 for?

j. Donald “Butch” Williams- assuming that is grant money too

k. Brad Spurlock- why is a additional appropriation if the money is there?

l. Donald “Butch” Williams- that was my question from day one six years ago, money deposit in the general fund

but marked for different things, like a grant, you can spend it on anything else, an incentive fund

m. Carroll Lanning- moves to accept Resolution 2007-11

n. Brad Spurlock- seconds the motion

o. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

III. Transfer of Funds Resolution 2007-12

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution; what is that a type-o?

b. Hollie Sintz – no it not fill out on the transfer, do you know Susan Jones

c. Brad Spurlock – this was received on April 3 and no one call to see why it didn’t have amount on it; are we allow

approve it if it blank;

d. Donald “Butch” Williams- wish Dale was here

e. Brad Spurlock- calls Dale on cell phone

f. Carroll Lanning – questions if there will be enough salt money for fall?

g. Hollie Sintz-at the end of the year we went for an additional for a tractor and gradeall, but since the additional

hasn’t been approved yet, we have to transfer until it is approved. This was my original plan.

h. Brad Spurlock – motion to approve just the salt the $30,000.00

i. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

IV. Amended Salary Ordinance 2007-07

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads the changes of the highway departments.

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept salary ordinance 2007-07

c. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, one abstained; motion carried

V. Cumulative Bridge fund

a. Jeff Koch- questions on the cum. bridge fund we didn’t take part of the rate

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – they (Commissioners) have to approve, in the last budget hearing we ask the

commissioners give from cum. bridge fund and they agreed to it. We did not take it. Everyone on the same page?

VI. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Hollie Sintz– seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; outa here

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Secretary Tracy Lightfield John Estridge, Whitewater Publications

Renee Estridge

To be approved 5/15/07

 

Franklin County Council May 15, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Brad Spurlock Elected officials:

Hollie Sintz Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor:

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts Carol L. Monroe

Carroll Lanning Thomas Wilson

Judge J. Steven Cox

Don Vonder Meulen

*Hollie Sintz opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Whitewater Valley Public Library

a. Appointment to Board

i. Melody Gault – Pat Combs is serving as President and doing a great job and would like you to reappoint her

ii. Carroll Lanning – move to reappoint Pat Combs

iii. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

iv. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carries

b. Whitewater Capital Projects Plan

i. Melody Gault – see attached plan. Reviews information enclosed.

ii. Brad Spurlock – question how reading garden is in the Laurel library

iii. Melody Gault – it is beautiful. Everyone is so proud of it.

iv. Brad Spurlock – move to accept .0133 tax rate/capital projects plan

v. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

vi. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried.

II. Minutes (April 24, 2007)

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept minutes as presented

b. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

III. Courthouse Renovation/Court Expansion

a. Judge J. Steven Cox – the magistrate was approved and will begin July 1 of this year. The magistrate will have to

have another person and we will be taking care of that out of user fees. We are under process of moving extension

office to this building (Government Center) and we are renovating the annex with user fees. Their deadline to be

out of the annex is July 1. Marlene (Flaspohler) has worked tirelessly on the computer system to get rid of our old

system that is falling apart. Training did begin today. Probation will be moving to where extension was (as well as

the public defenders office). Prosecutor and Clerk will be downstairs. Because probation will be another building

we will no longer be able to answer their calls, etc., they will need to have another person. Our two probation

officers will continue to do the case load they are doing now. The court turned in for the economic development

grant in Lawrenceburg and told we will hear something in the next three weeks. (The request was for seven

hundred thousand.) I understand (in the renovation project) we are in the first round, the money left over in the

original bond doesn’t cover what we need to renovate in the old building. If we don’t get the grant, we will need to

start thinking about supplementing the bond. We know we have a judicial officer coming July 1. We are not the

only people with user fees. The expectation of council is to use our user fees. Asking that it is made uniform

across the departments that also have similar fees.

b. Brad Spurlock – Council had to do an additional for juvenile fees. Is there anyway we can re-cope those fees?

c. Judge J. Steven Cox – we do have parental participation. We do all we can do-we do 4-E eligibility, look into

parental participation (those people usually are not in the position to recoup), etc. There is no state reimbursement.

Vast majority of juvenile delinquent things are handled with private insurance, etc. Our placement costs are down.

d. Kenneth Rosenberger – your extra person, do you know what that person will make?

e. Judge J. Steven Cox – it will be full time and it will be less than the least paid deputy.

f. Kenneth Rosenberger – will you be able to handle all of the extras?

g. Judge J. Steven Cox – it is our understanding that you expect that. This year I have shorted funding some things I

normally fund because of what we know; we have been planning for this. We know the rest of this year will be

busy and expensive.

IV. Resolution 2007-14 – Transfer of Funds

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – questions short of funds for S.A.C. part-time officer

c. Susan Jones – last year we had $4,000.00 and you cut it

d. Hollie Sintz – how many part time?

e. Susan Jones – one, Mendal quit

f. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution 2007-14

g. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

h. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried.

V. Resolution 2007-15 – Additional Appropriation

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution. Talked to Larry Franzman, they have two big cases up. The attorney they have

now is less than what they are anticipating.

b. Brad Spurlock – Don (Smith), are you housing state prisoners?

c. Don Smith – yes, we are constantly housing state prisoners (D.O.C.)

d. Brad Spurlock – with the lawsuits, why isn’t the county’s insurance taking care of it.

e. Susan Jones – because it is going to suit.

f. Brad Spurlock – don’t we have liability insurance for the county

g. Susan Jones – it only picks up so much

h. Brad Spurlock – the county has limited liability; that is not good. Who decides on what lawyer and what he

charges?

i. Susan Jones – A lot of these we don’t get an attorney but then it gets another step up, I don’t understand it.

j. John Estridge – who is paying for the E.PA. attorney?

k. Thomas Wilson – we are (flip tape)

l. Brad Spurlock – the insurance company says we aren’t going to do it-can we check in on that?

m. Carroll Lanning – will they try and recap any money from this guy?

n. Hollie Sintz – could the additional out of county general come out of rainy day? At the beginning of the year if we

have any left we could put some back in rainy day.

o. Kenneth Rosenberger – sounds good

p. Brad Spurlock – motion to accept all except for county general

q. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

r. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

VI. Ordinance 2007-09 – Amended Salary Ordinance

a. Hollie Sintz – reads amendments for 100-130 and 289; (no additional money)

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept ordinance 2007-09

c. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

d. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried.

VII. Commissioner Lawsuit Attorney Bill for Clerk

a. Marlene Flaspohler – questions when bill will be coming before the board

b. Carol L. Monroe – next month-it is just under $21,000.00, correct?

c. Marlene Flaspohler – yes

VIII. County option dog fund

a. Thomas Wilson – have called about 12 counties and can’t find anyone that has adopted it. If they have any animal

that is killed they pay it out of county general unappropriated.

b. Carroll Lanning – it is more trouble than it is worth.

c. Thomas Wilson – you don’t have to make a decision on it now.

IX. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Secretary Melody Gault Don Smith

John Estridge, Whitewater Publications Linda Bruns

To be approved 06/26/07

 

Franklin County Council June 26, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Eric Roberts Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Marlene Flaspohler Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger

Jeff Koch

Martha Bergman

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (May 15, 2007 & May 29, 2007)

a. Martha Bergman – motion to accept minutes

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

II. Resolution 2007-18 (Additional Appropriations)

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Brad Spurlock – questions $58,288.00 for rainy day

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – wanted this earmarked for EPA lawsuit.

d. Brad Spurlock – not saying we should not pay for Linkel’ bill. Is there a case where no one can just go out and get

the attorney

e. Eric Roberts – in Marlene’s case she came before the commissioners and (we) approved it

f. Susan Jones – another billg.

Eric Roberts – Don (Vonder Meulen) submitted another bill

h. Kenneth Rosenberger – I think he should pay for all of the legal bills. He is the only one benefiting from this

lawsuit. We shouldn’t strap the taxpayers with this lawsuit.

i. Brad Spurlock – agrees with Kenny. It is a catch 22 to a point.

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – if we approve the total additional out of the rainy day fund, we are putting that into an

account where the commissioners have the final say so.

k. Eric Roberts – Reedy is getting with Barnes and Thornburg to get us a total figure.

l. Brad Spurlock – make motion to accept resolution 2007-18

m. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

n. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor-4; one opposed; one abstain; motion carried.

III. EPA Lawsuit

a. Eric Roberts – the ($400.00/hr) has been put on hold and Eric Ready came in last Monday (his rate is about

$100.00/hr). Carol, Susan and I sat down with him.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – the situation is up to Barnes and Thornburg. For the interest of the taxpayers, why was

he put on hold

c. Eric Roberts – Barnes and Thornburg didn’t think he was doing anything for us. He as taking all of the tax money

and he didn’t understand Indiana.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – our thought was to fight the EPA, hire someone who used to work for them but you

found out that was not the case.

IV. Resolution 2007-19 (Transfer of Funds)

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Martha Bergman – move to accept resolution 2007-19

c. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

V. Brookville Police Dept. Claim for reimbursement

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – motion to sign claim

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

VI. Budget Information

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – we need to fill out our budget

i. Salary adjustment – $5,000.00

ii. Contingency part time – $8,000.00

iii. Misc. operating supplies – $200.00

iv. Legal consulting – $50,000.00 (flip tape)

v. Travel – $200.00

vi. Conferences $5,000.00

vii. Consulting Services – $2,000.00

viii. Capital outlay – $250.00

VII. State Called Council Conference

a. Carroll Lanning – learned about exemptions you can get on your taxes for veterans. There are a lot of new bills. It

was worth going. The thing on the 9th.

b. Martha Bergman – LOIT, it is very important we pass this. Listen to it and work it out.

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – there are some points we need to be clear on.

VIII. Special meeting

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – calls special/executive session for July 2, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. for the purpose of the EPA

litigation

IX. Adjourn

a. Brad Spurlock – motion to adjourn

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; out-a here

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Secretary John Estridge, Whitewater Publications Cathy Pelsor

To be approved 07/24/07

 

Franklin County Council July 24, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Carroll Lanning Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Don Vonder Meulen Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts

Jeff Koch Thomas Wilson

Martha Bergman Rebecca Oglesby

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (June 26, July 2, and July 10)

a. Carroll Lanning move to accept minutes

b. Brad Spurlock seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor

II. Family Connections 2008 Budget Request

a. Lynn Gough – we serve 121 families in your county. We are requesting $2,500.00 out of your budget. We teach

parenting, etc. This is not intervention, it is prevention. It costs (us) about $1,000.00 per family.

b. Hollie Sintz – thanks for time

III. Transfer of Funds Resolution 2007-20

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

c. Kenneth Rosenberger seconds the motion

d. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

IV. Loan to Government Bond Renovation Resolution 2007-21

a. Brad Spurlock motion to accept resolution

b. Jeff Koch seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor

V. New Hire in Extension office

a. Angie Riffle – we are hiring a secretary and would like to reduce the current salary (see attached)

b. Council agrees to make changes at next meeting

VI. Amended Salary Ordinance 2007-12

a. Hollie Sintz – reads amendments

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept ordinance

c. Brad Spurlock seconds the motion

d. Hollie Sintz – all in favor

VII. Inter-local agreement between city of Lawrenceburg and Franklin County

a. Hollie Sintz – reads agreement

b. Carroll Lanning move to allow Donald “Butch” Williams to sign agreement

c. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

d. Hollie Sintz – motion carried

VIII. Commissioner Lawsuit-Payment of Attorney Fees for Don Vonder Meulen

a. Don Vonder Meulen – would like to know process of the claim I have submitted

b. Brad Spurlock – the way I read the Indiana Code you should have requested this in your civil suit

c. Don Vonder Meulen – I wasn’t asking the court to order that, only to who was to sit in that chair. Reads email

from Gene Stewart. As far as legality of payment, Gene has addressed that. Wanted to talk to you about what is

fair. Review handout given to council (see attached).

d. Kenneth Rosenberger – I think you made a mistake. This has been going on since the mid ‘60’s and there hasn’t

been a problem with it. I have talked to twenty-five tax payers and they do not want to pay your fees

e. Melvin Paul Allen – make that twenty-six!

f. Don Vonder Meulen – if the county would have made it very clear they wouldn’t have paid any fees from the

beginning. I submitted the claim when I found out Lou’s (Linkel) fees were being paid. If you decide not to pay

any legal fees I would agree with that.

g. Brad Spurlock – if you were sued right now as a County Commissioner and you loose I believe by law we have to

pay your fees

h. Don Vonder Meulen – reads email from Charles Johnson-

”The County could pay the legal fees for the Commissioner if those legal fees were incurred, in the opinion of the

commissioners, by virtue of his/her office as an official of the County. The commissioners may employ an attorney

to represent them in that capacity”. It is basically a Commissioners call

i. Carroll Lanning – I would like to table this and bring it back when our president, Butch Williams is here. I would

like to do a little more research on this.

j. Brad Spurlock – request that Gene (Stewart) be at the next meeting or Butch talk to him

k. Hollie Sintz – on the agenda for August 28 at 9:00 am

IX. L.O.I.T.

a. Brad Spurlock – wants to know everyone’s thought

b. Carroll Lanning – wants to think about it some more and do some more research

c. Brad Spurlock – would like to have an open forum

d. Carroll Lanning – if you take one (tax) off it would go on the other

X. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor

Those also present:

Lynn Gough Jud McMillin Kim Vonder Meulen Paul Allen

Angie Riffle John Estridge, Whitewater Publications

To be approved 08/28/07

 

Franklin County Council August 28, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 9:00 a.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Judge J. Steven Cox Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Thomas Wilson Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Don Vonder Meulen

Jeff Koch Eric Roberts

Martha Bergman Rebecca Oglesby

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order. Moves meeting to Room

#101 (next to Auditor office)

I. Minutes (July)

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – did not call meeting to order

b. Hollie Sintz – motion change minutes

c. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

e. Carroll Lanning – motion to approve

f. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

II. Commissioner Lawsuit

a. Don Vonder Meulen – not sure where to begin. Want to continue discussion today (from last meeting) since it

was postponed due to Butch not being there

b. Carroll Lanning – since the last meeting, I have been around the county talking to people, as the majority of the

people said you knew what it was when you were going in. Maybe those people who wanted you to come in early

(as you were quoted in the paper) maybe they should help you pay for your lawsuit

c. Brad Spurlock – we could sit here all day and say what if.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – the decision was made by Judge Snow. If you notice in the papers that were filed that

law is quoted on several instances. On line 8 paragraph 8 it goes from stating law to stating a case. That is what a

law is-what we are here to decide today whether or not we are going to pay your attorney fees. There is nothing in

here that says we do or don’t have to pay your attorney fees. If we make the decision to pay or not to pay we set a

precedent. If we set the precedent we are going to pay the attorney fees for both sides, we are opening the county

up for a flood of attorney fees because it will not cost them anything. You said Lou’s fees were paid out of

courtesy, I disagree. We weren’t paying the fees because of Lou; we were paying because we were defending an

office of Franklin County. I don’t think we should pay the attorney fees.

e. Don Vonder Meulen – since the last meeting, the commissioners had a meeting with our attorney. He made three

statements 1-Marlene probably did not need an attorney, 2-the county should not have paid Lou’s attorney fees, 3-

it would be a legal thing to do for the county to do to pay my attorney fees. It would be equitable. It boggles my

mind why we didn’t come to an equitable conclusion (between me and Lou). Because of the action the county

decided to take, it created a situation where it was a hardship for me. That is why I put in my claim for attorney

fees.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – I disagree

g. Kenneth Rosenberger – I totally disagree, and I haven’t talked to anyone who is willing to cough up money for

your legal fees

h. Carroll Lanning – I disagree

i. Kenneth Rosenberger – motion not to approve money for legal fees

j. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

k. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; (Hollie Sintz-abstained), motion carried. We have tried that one enough.

Let’s try and get something done for the county.

III. Amended Salary Ordinance 2007-16

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads amendments. This, I would like to see an actual figure. Reads payroll voucher-

901.55 biweekly. We could approve it the way it is and amend it again if you wanted

b. Jeff Koch – move to accept ordinance

c. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

IV. Loan to Health Resolution 2007-24

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – motion to accept resolution

c. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams-all in favor; motion carried.

V. Transfer of funds Resolution 2007-22

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolutions

b. Hollie Sintz – if we don’t hear anything back from the state, what are we going to do-there are bills I am holding?

c. Judge J. Steven Cox – we did an additional appropriations out of user fees (and reimbursed back by county

general), can that not be done or just issue and order

d. Carol L. Monroe – issue the order

e. Donald “Butch” Williams – yes, it can-agrees for Judge to issue order

f. Judge J. Steven Cox – the only place we are strapped is in the pauper council

g. Hollie Sintz – we have to buy gas and diesel. The only place I have money is salaries

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – I wouldn’t tap into salary

i. Rebecca Oglesby – can you tap into major moves money since it is not tax money?

j. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept resolution

k. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

l. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

VI. Additional appropriations

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution. I think everyone is using their user funds.

b. Judge J. Steven Cox – can pay out of user fees, and then county general will have to reimburse

c. Brad Spurlock – questions S.A.C. office

d. Susan Jones – it is to build a wall/petition off old dog pound

e. Donald “Butch” Williams – (move on) one at a time

f. Hollie Sintz – there are certain things we legally have to pay. Why didn’t these people come back and say, you cut

me so bad I can’t function

g. Susan Jones – because you went back to 2005

h. Jeff Koch – on this computer equipment, he is going to order it

i. Carol L. Monroe – my understanding is it is up and running

j. Jeff Koch – that is not my problem

k. Judge J. Steven Cox – council has made it very clear of your expectations

l. Carroll Lanning – move to accept only Judge’s additionals out of county general and the $1,100.00 SAC

m. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

n. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

o. Hollie Sintz – move to approve cum cap, operation pullover, government center, tower maintenance., Co ID

protection, ITPC grant, tobacco money, and EMA ODP

p. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

q. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

VII. EMA Lawsuit update

a. Thomas Wilson – rainy day fund all used up and we have another $17,000.00 in bills we can’t pay.

b. Eric Roberts – Reedy and Ferman has been paid. We had a conference call and their experts refute what ours is

saying. They honestly believe we have the ability to pay. Our attorney is ready to go to court.

VIII. Adjourn

a. Brad Spurlock

b. Hollie Sintz

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – adjourned

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Secretary Cathy Pelsor John O. Worth, Attorney

To be approved 09/25/07

 

Franklin County Council 2008 Budget Hearings August 28, 2007

Those present:

Brad Spurlock Elected officials:

Hollie Sintz Thomas Wilson Franklin County Auditor:

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts Carol L. Monroe

Carroll Lanning Don Vonder Meulen

Donald “Butch” Williams

Martha Bergman

Jeff Koch

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens budget hearings; reminds everyone to take very good notes

I. Assessor

a. Sharon Halcomb

i. 109 – upped a little bit

1. computer maintenance is more for my office

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – how do you stand with compliance?

c. Sharon Halcomb – I talked to my computer person and he is going to give me an estimate on how much it will cost

to data enter the two years we are behind. I had it in my budget last year to pay him but you cut it. I just found out

Thursday that we are not getting our budget until they get sales data 2006 (from me). 2006 sales data does not

enter into the equation at all. All my girls took work home last night. We are going to try and get compliant so

they will release your budget. We are working on that. We have until October 20, 2007 to get compliant. There

will be a lot of counties who they will hold PTRC if they are not compliant. We do plan on being caught up. I am

sure there will be a lot of counties scrambling.

i. Reassessment

1. Becky’s salary (third deputy) comes out of that

2. Put part time money in there too in case you cut it out of county general

3. Postage-last year you cut my postage and that was to send out form 11’s. Thank God they did not

penalize me for not sending out form 11’s.

4. Contractual services-see handout

5. New equipment – that is for a fax machine.

6. Furniture and fixtures – I need a couple of chairs for the office for when my husband comes in and for

the handicap people

II. Public Transportation

a. Cathy Pelsor-asking what I ask for every year. If you have anything that comes up I will be in my office all day.

We did shuttle services at the fair and will be at the bicentennial events. There are a lot of different things in the

works. The Judge gave us some probation funds to help fund things. The county highway department helped with

our project.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – questions Laurel Senior Center

c. Cathy Pelsor – they were not able to carry out the obligations through Area 9. Other than people getting together

for fellowship I don’t know what is happening

III. Probation

a. Judge J. Steven Cox – you have the schedule in from of you, and those are minimums as you know.

IV. Treasurer – 103

a. Rebecca Oglesby – We would always like to get a second deputy. We are tying to get more electronic. We are

going to be doing validation-they will be automatic posting so we will not have to stay over to post. We still need

part time help. If we get a second deputy we can eliminate part time help. We are trying to do lender codes again.

Postage you can cut to $6,000.00, but next year the state of Indiana wants us to send out comparisons. Contractual

services are when we do updates on the computers. Travel is for going to all the conferences-you can cut to

$500.00. we have an old copier that was in the health department when we got it. We only got one printer and that

is old. Computer support, I don’t know if they are going to charge more-would like to keep at $5,000 or $6,000.00.

V. Prosecutor

a. Mel Wilhelm –

i. 108 – salaries we got in the wrong line (4126. should be $0.00 and 4127.00 should be $26,498.00 and

4129.00 should be $21,500.00). 4129 is the employee that is full time and she is there full time. They work

over and don’t get paid for it and I don’t give them comp time. They are all stressed out. I desperately need

that with the new court. Also on line 4122.00 (deputy prosecutor) asking that you give him a supplement

and would like to have that re-instated. Feels that my deputy should be treated as everyone else is

throughout the state. We have to prepare for trials on nights and weekends. ‘04 and ‘05 were bad for crime.

In ‘07 they are going down some. On equipment you have wiped out and asking you don’t do that.

ii. IV-D (145) my attorney is Gene Stewart. I have put in an increase due to the second court. 2/3 of what you

pay for will be paid for by the federal government. It is still very low in comparison to what the other

counties pay the third deputy.

1. Carroll Lanning – on law books?

2. Majority is on line now

3. Now they are no longer reimbursing the $10,000.00 for Diane (flip tape).

4. Adding appropriations to department (see sheet for 145 from prosecutor)

5. Susan Jones – confused, was this additional request advertised?

6. Carol L. Monroe – no

iii. Pretrial

1. Community service coordinator – we have to have him. Equipment again I ask you to leave that in

there. If you cut it I will be back at the first of the year. In case you are think we are extravagant, we

are not. We do not spend money un-necessarily.

iv. Victim Assistance

1. $10,000.00 should be (cut to) $7,500.00.

v. Deferral

1. $5,000.00 is paid to Diane. We don’t spend it un-necessarily. Don’t knock out equipment; we will be

back the first of the year.

vi. 317/IV-D

1. Diane’s $10,000.00

VI. Coroner

a. Rick Gill – the last two or three years I have been trying to get the chief deputy at ½ of what the coroner makes.

The criminal justice system does not pay for per diem or mileage any more. I wait until the end of the year on

supplies. I currently have 3 cases on autopsy and will be doing an additional. If clothes get soiled would like to

have something in there to replace them.

VII. D.S.C. office (see amendments)

a. Family & Children

i. Kelly Persinger – there are some numbers that look different because they are broke out between our cost

and probation cost.

ii. Terry Bockhover – this is the best we have been in many years.

iii. Thomas Wilson – do you take assignments?

iv. Terry Bockhover – no

v. Kelly Persinger –

1. adoption assistance – decreased from last year

2. child welfare services – same as last year

3. foster home – increase, but not as drastic as we thought it would be

4. care of wards and institutions – decrease from last year

5. indep. – more in there because we have older kids in care

6. preservation services – went up, this is closer to actual cost

7. medicade – went down

b. Child Psych. –

i. Kelly Persinger – less than what we had anticipated

ii. Terry Bockhover – we did not have a tax rate and we found out they can place children without us knowing

iii. Thomas Wilson – is there one now

iv. Terry Bockhover – no, that is what we are asking for

VIII. Area Plan

a. Larry Franzman – I made this budget out in May. I put in a $2,000.00 increase for Gary. $1,000.00 for myself and

for Charlie to $24,279.00 – He and Gary are doing the same job. Court cases raised because you don’t know from

one year to the next. The residential building code could change next year. Telephone, we had to move money.

Advertising – don’t know if we will need it or not. On zoning text, gave to Carol (Monroe) to put on website last

week. Need a new car, if we can’t, need money to keep the current cars going. $34,000.00 more than 2007.

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – building inspections, are the holding about the same?

c. Larry Franzman – they are about two per day less. New homes are down, but everything else is up. Will be pretty

close to what is was last year. Been stayin’ busy.

IX. Health Department

a. Angie Snyder – insurance has decreased

b. Diane Turney – increase gas and oil and mileage

c. Angie Snyder – county car on the blink and when it is down Joe (Meier) will also have to use the mileage money.

Did increase birth and death certificates

d. Diane Turney – tobacco money did ask for an additional $1.00 per hour. On coordinator, that is a projection, if we

don’t get the grant her job is finished.

X. W.A.T.C.H. Center

a. Jack Selm – 2008 budget request is $2,650.00 less. We were hoping to get this thing down more. We had $700.00

gas bills last winter and $3,000.00 gas bills. Things that hurt was $4,800.00 insurance for vans. Big line items are

utilities and liability insurance.

b. Carroll Lanning – you are doing a good job

c. Jack Selm – the whole community is involved in one way or the other.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – questions other not for profit

e. Jack Selm – there was a grant that went to Franklin County Transportation and all of our people get transportation

because of that.

XI. E-911/Communicatons

a. Tracy Lightfield– a lot of it has to do with salary and training-see handouts. 5% increase for asst. supervisor and

3% increase for dispatchers.

b. Carroll Lanning – questions holiday pay

c. Tracy Lightfield – every body gets the holiday pay whether they work it or not.

d. Jeff Koch – how many work at the same time?

e. Tracy Lightfield – two. Plays a recording of a 911 call. We don’t have enough to cover all of these things

XII. E.M.A.

a. Ed Hollenbach – when we hired mary five years ago, I was not allowed to have a payroll schedule. I am going to

loose Mary if I don’t do something soon. She is certified for hazmat. I have got to do something for her. Myself,

whatever. I just got the sub-grant agreement. District 9 is unreasonable. I average 44 hours per week. Either I am

getting slow or the job is getting bigger-actually it is both. Since ‘94 brought back to the county 4.8 million dollars.

It is a job nobody wants

b. Thomas Wilson – we ought to be ashamed of paying you $6,000.00 for what you do.

XIII. Economic Development

a. Renee Stivers – question P.E.R.F., (he) will not be here long enough to retire

b. Carol L. Monroe – that will stay in the “PERF” fund for future retirees

c. Renee Stivers – we are ten years behind but are moving along. We have got some people looking at two different

properties (tape 3)

d. Eric Roberts – in 2009 $75,000.00 and 2010 around $90,000.00 and 2011 is $110/$115,000.00

e. Renee Stivers – put more than 32.5 hours in per week. I appreciate the job.

XIV. Cemetery Commission

a. Ed Baker – see handout. We were established in 2001. Our responsibility is to identify all cemeteries in the

county with correct name, township, owner (county, township, private, etc.). We restore and maintain. Purchased

126 signs and have another 23 cemeteries we have visited in 2007 that we do not have signs for. Asking for

$24,000.00 in the budget for 2008.

b. Thomas Wilson – I think your board has done a good job. I wish more trustees could do what Roy (Hall) is

doing.(in Whitewater Township)

XV. E.M.S.

a. Bill Schirmer – recently got involved with E.M.S. There is more of a need for A.L.S. (advanced life support). We

are asking $225,000.00 to provide A.L.S. service in this community. We would purchase a chase vehicle (ex:

explorer). We didn’t know if it would be in the budget this year, but would put the offer out on the table. We do

have a signed contract with Commissioners contingent on financing.

b. Martha Bergman – questions if they could help Coroner

c. Bill Schirmer – if he would get with us, maybe we could help

d. Thomas Wilson – if you or your family was having a heart attack would you want to wait 15 minutes or 50 minutes

e. John Cookendorfer – about six years ago we were in debt. We now pay for anything we need up front.

f. Hollie Sintz – have heard people say – how did that building get built?

g. John Cookendorfer – with the funds that we have generated

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – the paramedic, would they be full time

i. John Cookendorfer – it depends on how it would be structured

j. Bill Schirmer – maybe we could work something out with commissioners the benefits

k. Thomas Wilson – this is what Ripley County does and they are basically self sufficient. If you ever have a family

member die you will want this.

l. Bill Schirmer – this is to accommodate the volunteer system

XVI. Soil and Water

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – work load?

b. Betty Gabbard – we are picking up watersheds and I am the only one to handle that

c. Martha Bergman – do you have your two drill paid off?

d. Mike Schwab – yes

e. Martha Bergman – what do you do with that revenue?

f. Mike Schwab – we either put it back into the repair of drills or back to the community in our farmers

g. Jeff Koch – are there going to be more equip (environmental) dollars

h. Mike Schwab – I think it is going to stay the same. John Selm has agreed to sit on the board in Norm’s place as

supervisor

XVII. Recess until tomorrow at 9:00 am

XVIII. Reconvene

XIX. Tourism

a. Dennis Kolb – annually we put an ad in the Indiana travel magazine for a half page ad. We also put an ad in

Midwest Living in the spring-nice colorful ad. Next spring there will also be one. We decided to focus on

Metamora due to the volume of traffic that comes into it. We have three billboards (one on 74). We have had

Metamora Music Festival, tractor show, canoe fest, etc. We have allocated about $10,000.00 for advertising we

are going to do for the Brookville Bicentennial.

b. Thomas Wilson – does everyone know how your fee is collected?

c. Dennis Kolb – there is a five percent tax on anyone that stays overnight in Franklin County. 99% of it comes from

Hampton Inn and we thank them very much. 99% of the people (staying) are not from Franklin County.

d. Eric Roberts – is the revenue going up?

e. Dennis Kolb – last year it went down, but this year it is going back up. Once school starts, the revenue stops.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – you have any ideas you are working on

g. Dennis Kolb – we have revamped our web site. We are getting a lot of hits.

h. Brad Spurlock – do you have any contacts with the state?

i. Dennis Kolb – yes

j. Brad Spurlock – can they do anything with the feeder dam?

k. Dennis Kolb – I think they are looking to take that over. I believe the State is going to make it a separate entity.

l. Brad Spurlock – they have it so tore up they can’t mow it. It is a mess.

m. Dennis Kolb – I would like to see the canoe race start there but there is not enough water flow and it would put

stress on the volunteers.

n. Donald “Butch” Williams – thanks Dennis for coming in

o. Dennis Kolb – if anyone has any further questions, please feel free to call.

XX. Park & Recreation

a. Ted Hensley – reviews salary increase request. Health insurance went up because assistant is adding family to plan

at the first of the year. We are going to have to replace a septic system and will have to hire an engineer. Bond up

due to increase on buildings. Other improvements are for septic and road to our new camp sites. Resurfacing road

will be for the hill. New equipment for small equipment. Picnic tables = $1,400.0/shelter =$0/new

equipment=$1,500.00/office furniture = $500.00/equipment and building = $500.00.

b. Martha Bergman – questions water testing

c. Ted Hensley – required to test once per month.

d. Hollie Sintz – how are rentals?

e. Ted Hensley – it is down. On our professional services we need that for the septic as well as our (5year) plan. On

labor day weekend we had some problems and had to spend $1,400.00 to have it pumped out.

XXI. Stayin Alive

a. Bonnie Blades – here for 267/294

i. 267 – increased the discretionary by $10,000.00 for a total of $76,000.00

ii. 294 – increased that discretionary to $10,000.00 for a total of $35,000.00; that is money we can use anyway

we see fit under the guidelines set by the state.

b. Bonnie Blades – We can only get the grant for 10 years.

c. Carroll Lanning – do you help the child prevention people if there is a drug problem?

d. Bonnie Blades – we don’t do anything as a group. They apply for grants-schools, law enforcement, etc.

Community Mental health also does programs (tape four). We are part of the Cincinnati Coalition and get some

dollars from them for supplies and materials. We also have a summit called addition is not what you think Sept.

20th at the Hearthstone-we partner with Farm Bureau on that.

XXII. Clerk of Clerk

a. Marlene Flaspohler – big thing is asking for a 6th deputy. The court system did acquire a magistrate. The

magistrate is acquired based on case load. Reviews work of office. Passports have went up four times since 2005.

Protective orders we had nine in 2006 and already have twenty-nine. We send out all of the jury notices and jury

questionnaires.

b. Carol L. Monroe – if you get another deputy will you still have to work nights and weekends?

c. Marlene Flaspohler – probably. Postage is so hard to decide because postage goes up. It cost $5.30 to send one

letter (certified). The clerk’s office has three conferences per year and the one in the summer is mandated.

Computer maintenance is calculated (11 for pros/court and 3 for unknown). Equipment repair you could take

down to $1,000.00. Postage meter we lease that. I put in for Malinowski Consulting-you would get 66% of his

fees back from the state; I have him on a contract for a month to month basis and right now I am taking his fee out

of IV-D, but as of Oct. 1 I can no longer do that.

XXIII. Election

a. Marlene Flaspohler – the pay did not increase but I am going to give them a $25.00 “fee” to come to the training

meeting.

b. Thomas Wilson – could you put in part time?

c. Carol L. Monroe – don’t know why not

d. Marlene Flaspohler – I did

e. Donald “Butch” Williams – wanted to keep the rate even

f. Marlene Flaspohler – I thank God for those new computers, I don’t have to write in the big books or hand

calculate.

XXIV. Surveyor

a. Joe Gillespie – my budget is the same as you approved last year and the year before; with the exception as my

wages and my part time help. The perpetuation fund is to promote section corner perpetuation. It has always been

my objective to allow that money to accumulate and at some point buy a G.P.S. system so I could tell you a precise

distance. There is over $26,000.00 in the fund. I get an allowance and asked that be increase from $2,000.00 to

$2,500.00.

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – do you have any trouble finding those corners?

c. Joe Gillespie – yes. When Indiana was first created they created sections from both East and West. It was the

county surveyor’s job to go out and replace those rotting posts and replace them with stones. We really want to

find those corner stones.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – how close are you to getting the G.P.S.?

e. Joe Gillespie – it will cost about $40,000.00. It isn’t a huge job doing the work but it getting the equipment is

without burdening the taxpayers. Other surveyors would benefit from this as well. The bottom line is your

information is so much better.

XXV. Extension Office

a. Hollie Murray – this year we did utilize our program assistance more due to one of our secretaries leaving. Office

supplies up do to inflation. Increase in contractual services for 2 ½ extension educator-this is set by Purdue

University. Computer network-Purdue updates our system on a daily if not weekly basis. We are requesting

$6,000.00 for a room size I.P. unit. That is for providing training, workshops, meetings, etc. so we don’t have to

travel and for us to hold workshops. I have used the I.P. video unit at Franklin County High School twice and

during that time I have had 20 people participate in that workshop who have brought in millions of dollars in grant

money.

b. Martha Bergman – can you use the facility here?

c. Hollie Murray – yes, instead of having to go somewhere else

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – who do you share the half time with?

e. Hollie Murray – no one, he is only half time. Purdue pays 71% (full time educators). Franklin County is paying

less than the average for our district.

XXVI. Safe Passage

a. Debra Guzman – I don’t see where Franklin County has included us in their budget (in prior years). We work with

domestic families (flip tape four). Often in the summer months we are over capacity. There are one out of every

four women are victims. See handout. I am not asking for a specific amount, I think that is for you to determine.

XXVII. Recorder

a. Mary Seufert – I would like a little bit more money in office supplies because they have gone up. My girls are

back loading all of the records we got. Sending them out is very expensive, I would like to have $500.00 added on

to that and add $100.00 to postage since that has gone up. I am running very close and need $1,300.00 instead of

$1,200.00. Conferences and seminars I could get out of R.P.F. (Recorder Perpetuation Fund). I am buying a new

piece of equipment where we can film a whole plat-right now we have to cut it down then they bring it in.

XXVIII. Sheriff

a. Dale Maxie – asked for increase in salaries. Issue with my salary-the judge and prosecutor got a raise on July 1,

2007. My salary is 60% of their salary. So, on January 1 I would get the back pay from July 1, 2007 to Dec. 31,

2007. Increase in holiday pay. Asking for two new deputies. McCrery and King increasing $10,000.00.

Longevity-adding another year. Gas and oil-that is just a guess. If we get any new cars, they changed the tires

from a 16 inch to a 17 inch on a crown vic. Other motor supply jumped due to the cars are getting old. I am

having to replace engines, etc. K-9 unit, they tried to poison him. He has a video security camera. Equipment – to

buy new cameras and whatever the deputy needs-gun belts, etc. Transport and civil process combined together-it

would make it nice to be a full time position and he could help in the jail

XXIX. Jail

a. Dale Maxie – #4158 and #4158.01 request should be reversed. Meals-increase in inmates. For a while we had one

hundred inmates in a sixty-four bed jail. With things like river raids, it is eating up the money. Medical serviceadvanced

medical-right now the contract states he will see forty-five inmates and anything above that is a certain

percentage. We have an agreement with Fayette memorial to make payments. Breathalyzer – mandate from the

state.

b. Thomas Wilson – we just got a bid for new heating and air. Right now we are spending thousands of dollars on it.

c. Dale Maxie – we have spent $35,000.00 on that air conditioner.

d. Thomas Wilson – it is killing us and the air quality is terrible.

e. Dale Maxie– we also have a plumbing problem. Half of the jail has hot water and half does not. The system we

are looking at putting in is a heating and cooling system with three backups.

f. Thomas Wilson –we need to find $112,000.00.

g. Dale Maxie – we are being forced to replace the steel doors and they have to be made.

h. Brad Spurlock – who determines who computers they are-yours or 911?

i. Dale Maxie – good question, right now we pay for it. What the computers are for, the dispatcher automatically

assigns the call to a deputy. (tape 5)

XXX. S.A.C. (Small Animal Control)

a. Dale Maxie – $7,500.00 should cover it (in part time).

XXXI. Sheriff-review

a. Dale Maxie – my idea is to hand all contractual services back over to commissioners. My budget just can’t take it.

We absolutely need new cars. It takes a lot to outfit these cars. Working on sheriff sales to make $100.00 off of

each. We have 1500 cases set for 2008.

XXXII. 2008 planning

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – just talked with Eric Reedy on a conference call. Tomorrow he will be here at 10:00

(am) to meet mostly with Carol L. Monroe and see if he can come up with something.

XXXIII. Judge

a. Judge J. Steven Cox – introduces Clay Kellerman. As you know Clay is the person who wrote the proposal that

got us the river boat money. It then was a joint effort-Carol’s (Monroe) office gave us a lot of information, you

and the commissioners gave us letters, etc.- will tell you before July 1 of this year. Clay and I petitioned the

legislation into a full blown judicial system. At this time last year we didn’t know what we were going to be able

to fund so there is no reason now for not creating a second court now. Our request to the legislature is that they

create a circuit court and then just a second division of the second court. This will allow us to still share the same

resources (copiers, probation dept., etc.) The sharing makes sense.

b. Martha Bergman – did you change anything (in the annex)?

c. Judge J. Steven Cox – no, because when we move out the probation, etc. will be in there. There is no time when

Clay is hearing criminal cases when I am. There is no overlap. We schedule purposely so that doesn’t happen (flip

tape 5). We made sure everyone was ok. We are not causing people to come in and overloading (prosecutor). In

the volume of cases, we are back to the ’94 volume. As of May 31 there were 63 cases filed-not even half by half

of the year. From June 1 until today there are 209 cases diverted. Way more is going through the diversion

process. The diversion cases we never see, we are not creating them. We are not generating any more work; we

are turning it over quicker. In two and half months over $25,000.00 went into diversion funds. We sit there

passively and wait for someone to tell us they need the court in some fashion.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – appeals? $100,000.00?

e. Judge J. Steven Cox – the reason we did that-except to say for pauper expenses we also have to pay court reporters,

deposition fees, type transcript. Meth. was particularly hard on this. Once the trial was over with you had things

like appellate fees. What the prosecutor chooses to bring to the courts attention is down. I anticipate that our

pauper budget will handle the 2008 year without doing anything creative. For the court reporter, if there is a raise

there should not be a raise for her (in user funds). Having to pay $100.00 more in phones. All the offices with

discretionary funds need to understand we need to use those.

f. Thomas Wilson – questions $150,000.00?

g. Judge J. Steven Cox – court reporter, all of the new furnishings, etc.

XXXIV. Transfer Station

a. Thomas Wilson – what we have charged to take in for trash exceeds. The only thing the transfer station is costing

the county is the wages. Recycling center is the grant money we get from solid waste. Don’t anticipate buying

anything. The $110,000.00 will come back into the county.

XXXV. Highway Dept.

a. Don Vonder Meulen – Hollie has coached me through this process

b. Hollie Sintz – last year we had to cut a lot and we have been limping. Last year we cut new equipment and the

$190,000.00 is a solid number. We have leased a total patcher, chipper, grade-all, and we are behind a truck. The

only other thing that is an issue is the gas and oil.

c. Jeff Koch – road signs?

d. Hollie Sintz – that could be $1,000.00; I emailed the State board of Accounts and that can be it’s own fund (tape

6)

e. Eric Roberts – we saved money on stone

f. Carol L. Monroe – did you look at your revenue compared to your budget?

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – need to cut about $400,000.00

XXXVI. Cuts

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – begin cutting-recess until 6:00 p.m. tomorrow

XXXVII.Reconvene

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reconvene at 6:00 p.m.

b. Thomas Wilson – announces Dale (Maxie) called about 5:00 p.m. and in order to fix it we will have to shut the old

down for three weeks.

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – is the air connected to the heat?

ii. Thomas Wilson – no, that is the good thing.

c. Park & Recreation

i. Ted Hensley – talked to Clint (assistant) and he will not be adding his wife

ii. Brad Spurlock – questions trash bags

1. Ted Hensley – they went from $40.00 per box to $50.00 per box.

iii. Carol L. Monroe – why are we cutting so badly?

1. Donald “Butch” Williams – how much do we need to cut?

2. Carol L. Monroe – Susan (Jones) and I sat in with Wayne (Hudson) and this is a very conservative

number. You need to cut $340,000.00 plus the projected additionals of $53,000.00 which is a total of

$393,000.00.

iv. Donald “Butch” Williams – we need to do the septic system

d. Auditor (flip tape 6)

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – questions postage meter

ii. Susan Jones – it had to be in someone’s budget/rental of postage meter

e. Clerk

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – she has a lot to send (postage)

f. Election

i. Hollie Sintz – leave it

g. Commissioners

i. Eric Roberts – ditch board only used as needed

ii. E.M.S.

1. Brad Spurlock – thinks E.M.S. is too much

2. Eric Roberts – this is cheap. Talked to Bill Schirmer today and the $225,000.00 he believes can come

down.

3. Donald “Butch” Williams – I haven’t had my scanner on for about six years, but if we pay

$225,000.00 how many times is this going to be out of service. Describes instances of Drewersburg

running while others sit in a parade. That paramedic is not going to do us any good out by me.

4. Thomas Wilson – is has changed a lot.

5. Donald “Butch” Williams – if we didn’t have volunteers, we wouldn’t have nothing.

6. Carol L. Monroe – I would be willing to pay $5.00 per year in property taxes if it meant someone I

knew life would be saved.

7. Jeff Koch – John (Cookendorfer) always says whatever you give us, we will keep doing what we are

doing.

8. Donald “Butch” Williams – on this particular one, I would really like to have Carroll Lanning’s input,

he was on the EMS.

9. Brad Spurlock – I was on it for five or six years and did it for free. That is just my belief.

iii. Family Connections

1. Carol L. Monroe – they work out of their cars (tape 7)

iv. Donald “Butch” Williams – questions unemployment insurance; do we have insurance

1. Susan Jones – we pay it as we go, we do not have insurance

2. Don Vonder Meulen – you don’t come out ahead when you buy insurance

v. Laurel Senior Citizens

1. Donald “Butch” Williams – up to Brad Spurlock

2. Brad Spurlock – they are not sanctioned, cut it.

vi. 4-H Fair Premium

1. Eric Roberts – don’t think kids should get this

2. Carol L. Monroe – is that only your decision, what about the other Commissioners?

3. Thomas Wilson – I think the kids should get it

4. Jeff Koch – so do I, lets put it back

5. Council agrees to put back premium

vii. Laurel Senior

1. Donald “Butch” Williams – $1,000.00 back in as long as they are sanctioned.

2. Council agrees

viii. E.M.S.

1. Carroll Lanning – if we give them money, can they come up with the money to hire their own

paramedic.

2. Thomas Wilson – they have five paramedics here in the county that can’t work here because Franklin

County is not A.L.S. If they get A.L.S. certified they have five volunteers that can run as paramedics.

You don’t have to have a “chase truck”. All ambulances would have to be set up as a paramedic

truck.

3. Donald “Butch” Williams – they could get the A.L.S. started with the $75,000.00?

4. Thomas Wilson – possibly

5. Brad Spurlock – keep it like it is with other people needing help like dispatchers, Dale.

6. Donald “Butch” Williams – agree with Brad Spurlock

7. Carroll Lanning – keep it at $45,000.00 and they could come back with a plan

8. Eric Roberts – that is a slap in the face

9. Kenneth Rosenberger – we should up it by some

10.Hollie Sintz – we should consider a small (increase)

11.Eric Roberts – is this something if they come back to us in next April, can we do an additional

12.Brad Spurlock – they said if we don’t do it they have other avenues to go at.

13.Carroll Lanning – we could squeeze the $75,000.00. (Then) In next year’s budget, we can say hey, we

are ready to run with this.

14.Donald “Butch” Williams – we are bouncing around here-do you realize how many police cars we are

playing with. Without all of it, none of it happens. We are not picking on anyone; we are trying to

make it as even as we can.

15.Brad Spurlock – these other people have been here every year needing things and this is the first year

they have asked-off of the cuff. That is kind-of quick

16.Carroll Lanning – we should give them a little bit more

17.Brad Spurlock 75

18.Hollie Sintz 50

19.Martha Bergman 75

20.Kenneth Rosenberger 50

21.Carroll Lanning 50

22.Jeff Koch 50

23.Donald “Butch” Williams – I like 50-fifty thousand it is

ix. Care of Inmates

1. Susan Jones – I have $15,000.00 (in bills) I can’t pay. A lot of it was paid out of rainy day.

x. Economic Development

1. Eric Roberts – I put that in for a cushion

2. Carroll Lanning – they said for two years that would not cost the county any money

3. Donald “Butch” Williams – zero

h. Courthouse

i. Reviewed and cut

i. Cemetery

i. Reviewed and cut

j. Cumulative Capital development

i. Susan Jones – this is what saved everyone

ii. Thomas Wilson – if it ain’t appropriated, you have to do an additional (flip tape 7)

k. Coroner

i. Reviewed and cut

l. E-911

i. Reviewed and cut

m. EMA

i. Reviewed and cut

n. Extension

i. Reviewed and cut

o. Family and children

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – leaves

p. EDIT/

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – leave as is

q. Health

i. Reviewed and cut

r. Highway – tape 8

i. Reviewed and cut

s. Judge

i. Reviewed and cut

t. Probation

i. Reviewed and cut

u. Prosecutor

i. Reviewed and cut

v. Recorder

i. Kenneth Rosenberger – she said we could cut conferences and seminars

w. Sheriff

i. Postage

1. Brad Spurlock $1200.00 (flip tape 8)

ii. Contractual services

1. Donald “Butch” Williams – he said he was going to help pay for this

2. Jeff Koch = 20

3. Kenneth Rosenberger 20 thousand

x. Surveyor

i. Reviewed and cut

y. Transfer station

i. Reviewed and cut

XXXVIII. Review

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – request were $6,390,995.00. we needed to cut $390,000.00 and have cut out of

general=$830,408.00/election=$0.00/health=$10,477/park&rec=21,103. one big problem-highway has no money.

b. Hollie Sintz – we cut it back and now have $67,760.00 (tape 9)

c. Carol L. Monroe – would like to see longevity

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – reconvene tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. and then again Tuesday at 6:00 p.m

XXXIX. Reconvene 08/31/07 (3:00 p.m.)

a. Hollie Sintz – reconvenes meeting and recesses until Tuesday at 6:00 p.m.

XL. Reconvene 09/04/07

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reconvene. If we are going to do longevity, we are doing it to even the playing field.

A few years ago, we put a bunch in our budget because we didn’t know how things were going to work out and to

cover things like this jail (thing).

b. Hollie Sintz – I feel we should put back in things.

c. Thomas Wilson – agree with Butch, have it somewhere where you can get to it.

d. Hollie Sintz – if something would happen to Ed, don’t think we would get someone for what we are paying Ed.

e. Thomas Wilson – think 911 would need to up part time to $12.00 per hour.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – think we should be at least $150,000.00 in the contingency line.

g. Carol L. Monroe – did Dale (Maxie) get estimate on heating and cooling?

i. Thomas Wilson – $112,000.00.

ii. Eric Roberts – Dale did not put in for new cars.

iii. Brad Spurlock – when I talked to him, if he got two deputies, he would only need one car

h. Longevity

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – if we do longevity, did we already allow for it in the highway?

ii. Hollie Sintz – yes.

iii. Brad Spurlock – motion to pay longevity rate to all county employees not already receiving longevity at a

$60.00 rate.

iv. Donald “Butch” Williams – no second to Brad’s motion; motion dies

v. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to make it (longevity) county wide of elected officials and full time employees

vi. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

vii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; Hollie Sintz –abstain, motion carried.

viii. Carol L. Monroe – just for clarification, is the coroner chief deputy included?

ix. Council – no

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – I would like to see us put a bunch of money in the contingency

j. Eric Roberts – is longevity the only raise

k. Brad Spurlock – yes

l. Donald “Butch” Williams – all I am saying is we have nothing in here to pay anything to repair at the jail. If you

give raises, police cars-you still have to fix the jail.

m. Brad Spurlock – we still have room for about five new employees

n. Carol L. Monroe – just remember you have to keep paying those employees.

o. Brad Spurlock – motion to put $150,000.00 in contingency

p. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

q. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried. (flip tape 9) the

r. Highway

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – equipment we cut out of highway?

ii. Thomas Wilson – we already signed contracts/lease

iii. Carol L. Monroe – will major move cover it?

iv. Thomas Wilson – think major moves will pay for new equipment

s. Donald “Butch” Williams – new employee request

i. Clerk

ii. Sheriff

iii. Hollie Sintz – what happens next year when you don’t have enough revenue?

iv. Donald “Butch” Williams – same thing we have done every year

v. Hollie Sintz – (I’m) not against anyone getting help

vi. Brad Spurlock – motion to give sheriff two deputies and clerk another person

vii. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

viii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; Kenneth Rosenberger-opposed; motion carried. I would decide (if)

he would want to switch one of those deputies to a jailer, then ok.

t. Kenneth Rosenberger – move that we supply sheriff with one car ($25,000.00)

i. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

ii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

u. Brad Spurlock – motion we give ed (Hollenbach) his salary as he requested (additional $3,999.00).

i. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

ii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

v. Brad Spurlock – don’t think we should go anywhere else on raises

w. Hollie Sintz – take what money we have left and put in the commissioners budget and let them decide.

x. Susan Jones – questions putting S.A.C. part time back in.

i. Brad Spurlock – what determines how much the part time works

ii. Susan Jones – holidays and weekends.

iii. Brad Spurlock motion to put $4,000.00 in part time help in sac

iv. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor. Who is taking care of S.A.C.?

vi. Eric Roberts – Mr. Dale (Maxie)

y. Donald “Butch” Williams – on the part time, if we didn’t do anything they are at the ’07 (appropriation)

i. Carol L. Monroe – what if State comes back and says we could have budgeted more money

ii. Donald “Butch” Williams – Carol is right, we did that a few years ago.

iii. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to add an additional $200,000.00 to the contingency fund

iv. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried.

z. Brad Spurlock – in comparison to the numbers they gave us to the LOIT (tape 10)

aa.Thomas Wilson – what would you pay out of contingency?

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – emergencies, and we know what the first thing will be.

ii. Eric Roberts – would we be better off borrowing it?

iii. Susan Jones – you have a problem with the highway buying equipment.

iv. Brad Spurlock – are we going to run into any more problems?

v. Thomas Wilson – we have spent enough that we could have bought new (heating and cooling for jail). We

should be ok until next spring. The ventilation over there is another problem.

XLI. Adjourn

a. Hollie Sintz – move to adjourn

b. Kenneth Rosenberger- seconds

c. Donald “Butch” Williams –out here

Those also present (outside of speaker listed):

Ed Hollenbach Eugene Stewart, attorney Susan Jones Brian Baxter Don Dunaway

Melinda Brown Clay Kellerman John Estridge, Whitewater Publications

To be approved 09/25/07

 

Franklin County Council September 11, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Brad Spurlock Elected officials:

Hollie Sintz Franklin County Auditor:

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts Carol L. Monroe

Carroll Lanning

Martha Bergman Judge J. Steven Cox

Jeff Koch Don Vonder Meulen

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting with pledge; takes a moment of silence for 9-11

I. Review

a. Public Health Coordinator Fund 4560

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – according to my notes we did give her a raise

ii. Brad Spurlock – this is grant money?

iii. Carol L. Monroe – yes

iv. Brad Spurlock – don’t see any problem

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – everyone in agreement, we are staying with $50,000.00 as asked for?

vi. Carroll Lanning – we left that page alone. Will they be eligible for longevity

vii. Carol L. Monroe – no, it is a contract

b. Sheriff

i. Carol L. Monroe – he had stated he wanted the back pay in 2008 for the raise he would have gotten with the

prosecutor from July 1 through Dec 31.

ii. Judge J. Steven Cox – the counties policy ties his salary with the state employees and our runs July through

June.

iii. Donald “Butch” Williams – right now there is not a contract with the sheriff

iv. Judge J. Steven Cox – we know until the legislature meets again, we will get what the state employees get

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – I would feel obligated to do it Jan 1, but to make it retroactive-?

vi. Carroll Lanning – we don’t have a contract now with this sheriff?

vii. Carol L. Monroe – yes, but it ran out

viii. Judge J. Steven Cox – don’t you have to do that annually?

ix. Carol L. Monroe – yes

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – do we raise it to the department request and he is asking for compensation from

July 1, 2007 to Dec. 31, 2007?

xi. Hollie Sintz – If I was sheriff I would feel I should get that

xii. Carroll Lanning – the understanding he has is he gets the 60%.

xiii. Brad Spurlock – don’t see anything to change on the contract

xiv. Donald “Butch” Williams – Reads Indiana Code 36-2-13.

xv. Brad Spurlock – move to pay sheriff 60% of the prosecutor’s minimum salary

xvi. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

xvii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried. Now the change came about 2007/it went into

effect. The back pay, what do we do? We did not budget for that increase. Would it be fair to say it would

be half of the difference between this year and next?

xviii. Carroll Lanning-are we going to run into this problem again July one if this happens again.

xix. Hollie Sintz – could we just take it out of contingency?

xx. Donald “Butch” Williams – it would have to be a completely different line

xxi. Brad Spurlock – if he is paid like all of the other county employees, there is nothing we can do about it. The

way you read it, he just looses out on six months; that is the way it sounded to me. Unless he can show

something else.

xxii. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads email from Tammy White “Our audit position is that IC 36-2-13-2.8 may be

used to set the minimum salary of the County Sheriff. Therefore, if the County Council chooses to use this method

they would set the Sheriff’s compensation based on the Prosecuting Attorney’s salary at the time it is set. If the

Council wants to provide an increase for the amount of increase the Prosecuting Attorney’s received July 1 (set on

the State’s fiscal year) then they may include that in the next salary ordinance since the code states that this is a

minimum. The salary set may be higher.”

c. Magistrate Supplement

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – we did give that

d. Eric Roberts meeting

i. Carroll Lanning – according to Eric (Reedy) we can get all of that back on salaries. Operating part of the

extra court.

ii. Eric Roberts – 25% of capital

iii. Carroll Lanning – it has to be put in to get the appeal

iv. Don Vonder Meulen – he said it didn’t specify, just said new court

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – it is a means of us gaining revenue for our growth

vi. Carroll Lanning – you will know by January 1 whether or not you have been approved

vii. Donald “Butch” Williams – it would be $4.10 on a $100,000.00 home

e. Deputy Prosecutor

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – we didn’t agree to add anyone

f. Holiday pay on sheriff

i. Eric Roberts – there are 14 holiday

ii. Donald “Butch” Williams – we didn’t do anything, so the figures you have down would be correct.

whatever was asked for in holiday pay (minus $22.000 matron error) is what we are giving them

g. Health Insurance

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – just go make it official up the health insurance for the new employees of about

$53,000.00 extra. –do it

h. E-911 part time

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – part time help

ii. Tracy Lightfield – most counties use 911 only for equipment and operate out of county general

iii. Donald “Butch” Williams – it has decreased the last four years

iv. Tracy Lightfield – the breakdown is based on vacation, training, etc. I am operating now with two part time

people that can work one day a month. I was going to turn in a transfer of funds for $8,000.00 to cover a

medical leave from earlier this year. I am going to be working solo on Wednesday nights because I don’t

have a dispatch.

v. Brad Spurlock – thirty-eight (thousand) is the highest it has been the last three years

vi. Hollie Sintz – if there is not enough revenue?

vii. Carroll Lanning – if we give you the fifty-five (thousand) and you don’t use it all can you put is towards new

equipment

viii. Tracy Lightfield – yea, that is what I am doing now. I tried to figure it out to every hour of every day

ix. Carroll Lanning – it would be just as well to leave it there than for her to come back and ask for additional

funds

x. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to make $50,000.00 for extra part time help

xi. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

xii. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

i. EMS/ALS

i. Bill Shirmer – distributes budget to council. Basically it is a $350,000.00 project and we are asking council

for $225,000.00. Health insurance cost, I used the number you used. I would like to see if this board; we

requested $75,000 to keep basic in place. Would like to continue to table the A.L.S. and work with this.

Really what I would like to see the $75,000 we requested. I was confused when it said $75,000.00; not

$75,000.00 or best offer. If financing is not available, we would have to go back to the drawing board. I

looked at other county offices and just today, Ripley County has four squads and BLS is $175,000.00. They

have an A.L.S. system that is county owned. My pitch was it would be greatly appreciated. I read that

someone lives 11 miles from the hospital and it is not always convenient that we have a problem that close to

a hospital.

ii. Carroll Lanning – the $75,000.00 that is for?

iii. Bill Shirmer – that is for basic life support; the same thing we have had in the past. It is a case where we do

bill people and there is income on it;

iv. Jeff Koch – your service area is Franklin County

v. Eric Roberts – anything the four EMS cover

vi. Carroll Lanning – if we do this appeal, EMS would have to go up to at least 55/60 thousand

vii. Eric Roberts – his recommendation was 60 at the very minimum (tape 2)

viii. Donald “Butch” Williams – there are so many things in the balance that could increase our taxes I would

hate to put on 50 cents. It would be a good thing to get more C.A.G.I.T. On the E.P.A., anything we can’t

scrape together we have to bond the rest. You never get a bill from the sheriff department, where you do

bill.

ix. Hollie Sintz – then it bugged me that you said that if you get a bill twice and don’t pay it just goes away.

x. Bill Shirmer– we only collect 55%. From the A.L.S. standpoint we have some things weak of our own. Mr.

Wilson indicated that the numbers we are throwing up at us are ridiculously low.

xi. Hollie Sintz – you have not been here the last three years and you consistently received the $45,000.00

xii. Brad Spurlock – when I was on the ambulance, the county paid out of the general fund then it evolved where

you separated and the county helps with some of your expenses.

xiii. Carroll Lanning – all of the ambulances were turned over to them.

xiv. Bill Shirmer -we work with these volunteers and they are dedicated to hell and back. They have never

backed down. If we don’t have a contract by Jan. 1 you want have an EMSxv.

Brad Spurlock – the county has brought you to where you are and now you are giving an ultimatum

xvi. Martha Bergman – you mentioned $10,000 but actually if we put in $10,000 we have to put it in next year

and the next generation

xvii. Donald “Butch” Williams – if you compare us at other counties; 1-it don’t matter, we pay what we can. If

we bring you up to what the other counties are then we would have to bring up everyone else; the auditor is

5th from the bottom in the state of Indiana. There was not payments set up in your budget for the new

building. Why not?

xviii. Bill Shirmer – we paid for it with cd’s that were set aside to purchase ambulances

xix. Donald “Butch” Williams – three years ago when the situation was made like it was; it was done at a

handshake we could do what we could afford and the EMS would provide services and now you say you

won’t have any EMS come the first of the year and open it up for bid. I think this board is absolutely to

Franklin County EMS Inc. and they will strive to do all we can do to afford. Every time this happens, I take

strong offense when they come in and try to hold us hostage. Every service is important. We have to have

the auditor, assessor and clerk to collect the money to provide the services. To start this kind of turmoil iswhy.

We are going to do all we can do.

xx. Bill Shirmer – the amount now is $50,000.00? All we can do is ask county council to consider us.

xxi. Donald “Butch” Williams – and that we will do

xxii. Carroll Lanning – is it going to come out that the building was done with private funds.

xxiii. Bill Shirmer – there is a misunderstanding.

xxiv. Carroll Lanning – this (EMS) board needs to come out and say this building was built by EMS funds.

xxv. Tracy Lightfield – at the last board meeting they talked about that at the open house.

xxvi. Bill Shirmer – I appreciate anything else you can do for us.

xxvii. Donald “Butch” Williams – are we changing anything on the EMS request or not.

xxviii. Carroll Lanning – if we go this route (appeal) we have to go up $10,000.00

xxix. Jeff Koch – my district wouldn’t benefit

xxx. Carol L. Monroe – but if someone from your district was at a (Franklin County) Farm Bureau meeting they

would

xxxi. Jeff Koch – good point

xxxii. Carroll Lanning – our first thing is we need to know if we are going to do an appeal.

xxxiii. Hollie Sintz- they are a lot of what if’s.

xxxiv. Donald “Butch” Williams – there is a whole lot of what if’s. If it is true the taxpayers could spend $4.50 on

$100.00 and get back 6/7 dollars worth of tax income that is a good investment. I don’t want to raise; six

months from now I could give you a different answer.

xxxv. Kenneth Rosenberger – I am in favor of appeal

xxxvi. Hollie Sintz – no

xxxvii. Brad Spurlock – no

xxxviii. Martha Bergman – we have to

xxxix. Carroll Lanning – it is the only way to raise taxes down the road and keep the budget under control

xl. Jeff Koch – we are going to have to go with the appeal

xli. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads Resolution 2007-26

1. Brad Spurlock – motion to not do appeal

2. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

3. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion failed (three for Hollie Sintz, Brad Spurlock, Donald

“Butch” Williams ; four opposed

4. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

5. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

6. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; (four for and three against); do not go down there and say

they approve this. If we don’t find out for a year and a half

7. Bill Shirmer – you will know by Jan 1 (flip tape two)

8. Carol L. Monroe – how much are you giving in B.L.S.?

9. Carroll Lanning – we have to give the $60,000.00. Motion that $60,000.00 be put in B.L.S. in

commissioners budget contingent on appeal process and $50,000.00 if it doesn’t go through

10.Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

11.Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; four for and thee opposed.

II. Adoption Ordinance 2007-18

a. Donald “Butch” Williams reads ordinance

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads ordinance for second reading. All in favor; four for and three opposed.

III. Adjourn

a. Hollie Sintz – motion to adjourn

b. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – out a here

Those also present:

Veronica Voelker, Chief Deputy Auditor Susan Jones, Auditor Elect Bill Shirmer

Approved 09/25/07

 

Franklin County Council September 25, 2007

County Council Meeting Room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Hollie Sintz Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor

Martha Bergman Don Vonder Meulen Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts

Carroll Lanning (arrive at III) Dale Maxie

*Hollie Sintz – opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order

I. Minutes (Aug. 28, 2008 Budget Hearings, and 2008 Budget Adoption)

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept minutes

b. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

II. Resolution 2007-27 / Transfer of Funds

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Susan Jones – found that the insurance company may be able to pay some of the (E.P.A.) legal fees

c. Brad Spurlock – good, that is the question I have been asking; move to accept (resolution 2007-27)

d. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

e. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

III. Resolution 2007-28 / Additional Appropriation

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Brad Spurlock – motion to accept resolution 2007-28

c. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

d. Carroll Lanning – couldn’t some of this wait until the first of the year; this (for prosecutor) is through February

(2008)?

e. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; opposed -1 (Hollie Sintz) ; motion carried 4 to 1

IV. Indiana Homestead Tax Credit (quote for county cost)

a. Brad Spurlock – $13,454.00, Auditor, where can we take it?

b. Carol L. Monroe – either cum. cap. or general and cum. cap., it is tapped out

c. Susan Jones – are any other counties doing this?

d. Carol L. Monroe – I don’t know

e. Hollie Sintz – take it out of attorney fees (transfer it) from council budget

V. Resolution 2007-29 / Loan to Highway EDIT

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

c. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

d. Hollie Sintz – all in favor; motion carried

VI. Fayette Regional Health Center Expansion

a. Doug Fischesser – distributes information-see attached (folder). Negotiating with a couple different doctors.

November 2 is the ground breaking. Looking at a ten month time frame. Hopefully the weather will corporate.

b. Martha Bergman – what prompted this?

c. Doug Fischesser – we wanted to expand our services in Brookville. We felt that Franklin County would be better

served.

d. Martha Bergman – do we still need to go to Fayette Memorial?

e. Doug Fischesser – more specialty type services will need to go to Fayette Memorial. This is more of an out patient

service

f. Martha Bergman – is anything immediate be taken care of?

g. Doug Fischesser – the more intricate type of services will need to go to Fayette Memorial. We are trying to expand

the specialty care; ear, nose and throat.

h. Carroll Lanning – what about EMS runs; is there a facility here?

i. Doug Fischesser – it depends on the case; we have discussed some of the options.

j. Carol L. Monroe – helipad?

k. Doug Fischesser – we don’t know if we will have enough room behind the building.

l. Martha Bergman – I was there and really was satisfied with my service. Then got a bill from Fayette Memorial

m. Carol L. Monroe – (the) concern is this facility couldn’t handle it so was transferred to Fayette; then received a bill

for both “emergency room” visits.

n. Fayette Memorial Rep. – needs to contact billing; it depends on what service you received.

o. Doug Fischesser – thank you for your time

VII. Public Housing Authority Board Resignation/Reappointment

a. Hollie Sintz – Edna Minimum; has resigned (republican). Rick Gill (democrat) has agreed to be re-appointed.

b. Carroll Lanning – get with head of republican party

c. Hollie Sintz – we will do that

VIII. Reedy and Peters

a. Carroll Lanning – we don’t want to be spending money we don’t need to be spending; if we are going to continue

with him we need to all meet with him.

b. Brad Spurlock – he needs to work his schedule to ours since he is working for us.

c. Carroll Lanning – I brought it up because we are spending this money and it is county money.

d. Don Vonder Meulen – (flip tape). Talked to Eric this morning and he is coming to highway next week. Trending,

etc. Hoping he will provide some reports.

e. Brad Spurlock – how are you going to pay for that?

f. Don Vonder Meulen – is that part of the agreement for council?

g. Brad Spurlock – I would say, no

h. Don Vonder Meulen – these reports would basically be for you

i. Brad Spurlock – when he gets involved our tax rates go up! We know we can generate money with raising the tax

rates.

j. Don Vonder Meulen – want him to give us a heads up financially with the highway department. I don’t have the

knowledge to go down there and hopefully he could do that.

k. Brad Spurlock – there are a lot of people that could do that; a lot cheaper

l. Carroll Lanning – Butch and Brad both said we need someone. That is the last thing I remember.

m. Brad Spurlock – I thought that would be to look at our operation like what don was talking about.

n. Don Vonder Meulen – some counties are taking the paved roads back to gravel roads because they can’t afford to

keep up the paved roads.

o. Brad Spurlock – if push comes to shove; you will have to push

p. Carol L. Monroe – we need it in writing

q. Brad Spurlock – why does he have to come down

r. Eric Roberts – he gave the county three options; he gave us good insight to the least impact to the taxpayers. We

got the best bang for our dollar. I wish more of you could have been there. He needs to present to more council

members.

s. Brad Spurlock – we need to decide to have a meeting right now with him.

t. Don Vonder Meulen – what do you want from him

u. Brad Spurlock – what is he doing.

v. Carroll Lanning – let him do the appeal and tell him you are done until further notice

w. Carol L. Monroe – I am uncomfortable with the quality of work from him and his secretary.

x. Susan Jones – Carol, can Don use Wayne Hudson?

y. Carol L. Monroe – yes, and he is free.

z. Susan Jones – lets use our resources

aa. Carroll Lanning – anything on E.P.A.?

bb.Eric Roberts – we were counter sued by Hornsby family but Hornsby were never named in lawsuit. They want us

to pay back a large part of their attorney fees.

IX. Adjourn

a. Carroll Lanning – move to adjourn

b. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – we are done!

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Auditor Elect John Estridge, Whitewater Publications Doug Fischesser

Approved 10/23/07

 

Franklin County Council October 23, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 9:00 a.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Marlene Flaspohler Franklin County Auditor

Hollie Sintz Dale Maxie Carol L. Monroe

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts

Jeff Koch Don Vonder Meulen

Martha Bergman Mel Wilhelm

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order.

I. Minutes (September 25, 2007)

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept Sept. 25, 2007

b. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

II. Transfer of Funds (Resolution 2007-30)

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads resolution

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution 2007-30

c. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

III. E-911 Part Time Help

a. Tracy Lightfield – distributes information (see attached). Requesting part time be changed from $9.50 per hour to

$12.50 per hour. There is no incentive for part time to stay. This would keep us from continuing training people

for other outside agencies. We did run an ad for part time help and we got six applications and of those only two

are “maybe” candidates.

b. Martha Bergman – the two individuals?

c. Tracy Lightfield – based on background check and reference checks. We have been a revolving door for a lot of

people for dispatch, jail, or otherwise.

d. Carol L. Monroe – you are asking only for a change in the hourly rate, not more money?

e. Tracy Lightfield – right, I am going to have to move money to cover it though?

f. Brad Spurlock – motion to approve request to increase part time salary to up to $12.50 per hours

g. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

IV. 2008 Prosecutor Budget (219)

a. Mel Wilhelm – I have an employee that was making around twenty some last year full time and this year you cut

her down to fifteen.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – we cut no one’s salary we just thought you should pay it out of user fees

c. Mel Wilhelm – she is being paid out of user fees. The county is always paid the $7,500.00 out of user fees. Do I

pay it all out of user fees? I am responsible for keeping the county safe and they come crying to me.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – what was the figure that you had given money to other agencies already this year?

e. Mel Wilhelm – I don’t know

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – the dollars that you are saying you get, I think more goes through. If you want to

discuss the $7,500 then we will discuss it.

g. Mel Wilhelm – why was she cut?

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – she was not cut

i. Mel Wilhelm – she get fifteen thousand not twenty

j. Brad Spurlock – I agree her salary should stay the same, where it comes from is another discussion

k. Mel Wilhelm – if you think I am trying to horde user fees you are wrong. We are still paying this years. There

was a suggestion made that all user fees be put in one pot but the judges don’t agree with that because they have a

bigger pot. In the paper it said the magistrate would not create any more paperwork for the prosecutor; that is

wrong-we are absolutely swamped right now. It is as if my staff is at the bottom. Everything from a speeding

ticket to the court goes through our office and that is demanding. I get a supplement from the county and you take

it away from the deputy years ago and you get a magistrate and you give him a supplement. Do you not like him?

l. Donald “Butch” Williams – on these funds; pretrial diversion and deferral, title IV-D,

m. Mel Wilhelm – IV-D can only be used for child support

n. Donald “Butch” Williams – in those three funds you have $60,000.00

o. Mel Wilhelm – I am not going to consider the IV-D. we have the river raids and if I don’t run anyone there, I

wouldn’t have anyone supplement that fund

p. Donald “Butch” Williams – two thoughts; one the IV-D if that is used for IV-D purposes and everyone has a hand

in doing the job in your office at some point. As are as pretrial diversion, you say if I didn’t run anyone through

there I would have anything in that fund.

q. Mel Wilhelm – if I misspoke then I apologize. We have guidelines. I can do away with that program tomorrow,

tonight and there will be no deferral and there will be no.

r. Donald “Butch” Williams – our intention was that you would pay the $7,500.00 out of user funds. We never cut

anyone’s salary

s. Mel Wilhelm – then pay her the 22,500.00!

t. Donald “Butch” Williams – we were hoping you would pay the $7,500.00 out of one of your funds

u. Mel Wilhelm – there is not unlimited funds; I can’t budget something that is not there. I budgeted $67,000 and I

don’t know if anyone is going to qualify.

v. Brad Spurlock – you are saying you are not budgeting any deferral into your budget.

w. Mel Wilhelm – I do, $67,000.00

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – we cut it last year too. I am made my point; we are not going to cut Diane’s salary.

y. Mel Wilhelm – I am not going to budget more than I have, that is how you got in trouble

z. Donald “Butch” Williams – whoa, whoa, whoa. We did not budget more than we have, we budget what the DLGF

tells us we have. (flip tape one)

aa. Mel Wilhelm – being told that the fed.’s don’t want the IV-D to supplement salaries

bb.Carroll Lanning – be assured no salary will be cut.

cc. Kenneth Rosenberger – what do we need to do?

dd.Hollie Sintz – we need to do an additional

ee. Donald “Butch” Williams – on Jan 1; we need to do whatever we need to do the first of Jan

V. Budget Class

a. Hollie Sintz – a few Friday’s ago Wayne Hudson suggested he could have a budget class

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – since Wayne is the person from the DLGF and he is willing to give a class

c. Brad Spurlock – Dec 12th

d. Carol L. Monroe – I will get with him

VI. November meeting

a. Brad Spurlock – motion to change Nov. meeting to 13

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor

VII. Brookville police claim

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – signs claim amount of $69.00

VIII. Eric Reedy

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – I met with Eric Reedy and our discussion was what we expected of him and I left it

with him that he started the budget appeal process, continue that but as far as any other services at this time council

would discuss it and let him know. As far as the date for the appeal process he does not have that yet; D.L.G.F.

sets the date. If anyone wants to attend that hearing with him they are more than welcome.

IX. Additional for November

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – Dale needs 8,000.00, 4,000.00, and 3,000.00 for part time help and wanting a verbal

tonight

b. Hollie Sintz – I would

c. Jeff Koch – yep

d. Carroll Lanning – yes

e. Brad Spurlock – yes

X. Public housing

a. Carroll Lanning – questions appointment from last meeting

b. Carol L. Monroe – we are working on it, having hard time finding someone to say yes

XI. Adjourn

a. Hollie Sintz – motion to adjourn

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – outa here

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Auditor Elect Bill Schirmer John Estridge, Whitewater Publications

Tracy Lightfield Mel Wilhelm

Approved 11/13/07

 

November 13, 2007

Franklin County Council Meeting (moved to) Conference Room #101 at 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Hollie Sintz Thomas Wilson Franklin County Auditor:

Kenneth Rosenberger Eric Roberts Carol L. Monroe

Carroll Lanning Don Vonder Meulen

Martha Bergman

Jeff Koch (arrived at II)

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens with pledge; some of us just went to the courthouse and toured the construction

progress

I. Minutes (October 23, 2007)

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept minutes

b. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

II. Transfer of Funds / Resolution 2007-31

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads transfers

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

c. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

III. Amended Salary Ordinance 2007-19

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads amendment (E-911 part time help)

b. Carroll Lanning – move to accept salary ordinance

c. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

IV. Additional Appropriation / Resolution 2007-28

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads additionals and reductions

b. Hollie Sintz – move to accept 2007-28b

c. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

e. Kenneth Rosenberger – motion to approve a

f. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

V. Homestead rebate

a. Carol L. Monroe – reviews council giving permission (for funds). Original proposal from Harris was at $2.00

per parcel. Auditor’s around state got together and got a better rate. We have a rate now of fifty-seven cents

per parcel.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams – what do you want from us?

c. Thomas Wilson – a blessing.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – that is a good reduction; good idea (blessing given)

VI. Collection Update

a. Rebecca Oglesby – today we took in $600,000.00 just in walk-in’s. Everything that we did today means

nothing. It starts in the auditor’s office and I don’t know what happened; but they put a penalty program on and

everything paid on 11/13 is going to have penalties. Talked to the Manatron people tonight; it is a calendar

thing generated in the auditor’s office; I don’t know what happened. We never put that penalty program on

until the next week. I have twenty crates of mail in my office-I bet there is five million dollars back there. I

have to wait and stop, we may have to individually pull each transaction out we did Friday and today to clear it

out. We have to put them back on so they don’t put on a penalty. They think development can wipe out all the

transactions that have 11/13 and can reset the system.

b. Eric Roberts – you have a lot of people that got envelopes all day long and stuffed the box out here.

c. Rebecca Oglesby – thank god I didn’t put first American on. They have a check in there for $860,000.00.

everything has come to a grinding halt, I can’t invest money; I will do it my way. The Auditor’s office can’t do

it. My office is at a stand still until we get this fixed. The buck stops in my office. My office works awfully

hard and we try to do things right. I don’t know what happens in the auditor’s office.

d. Carol L. Monroe – first of all, the memo that I talked to you about today that you said you seen and if you

remember our conversation I said my was emailed to me and it was a mass mailing and it went to junk and I did

not see it; however you told me you did see it.

e. Rebecca Oglesby – we seen it

f. Carol L. Monroe – did you read it? Hanging up on Manatron today did not solve the situation. The problem

with the calendar they found is the system said 2005 billing cycle. There was no reason for us to go into 2005,

it is 2007 now. That is the issue with the calendar, what was you other issue?

g. Rebecca Oglesby – the three million

h. Carol L. Monroe – the three million, we just can’t pull it out of our _ _ _ .

i. Rebecca Oglesby – why not?

j. Carol L. Monroe – It has to come from somewhere, you want me to pull that out of county general fund. There

is not three million dollars sitting in county general! It has to come out of your bank.

k. Rebecca Oglesby – I have eight million sitting in the bank; you don’t have to pull it anywhere. Type up a check

for three million dollars and invest it.

l. Carol L. Monroe – they money has to come from somewhere; it doesn’t come out of the air. You give me a

check from that bank

m. Rebecca Oglesby – I don’t issue checks

n. Carol L. Monroe – I don’t have the cash in our funds. We went through this last year this is why the E.P.A.

thought we had another five hundred thousand-because you insisted this last year.

o. Rebecca Oglesby – be glad when the next auditor.

p. Carol L. Monroe – I am sure you will, are there any other issues you would like to get out on the table this

evening

q. Rebecca Oglesby – that was it.

r. John Estridge – the people that paid today, they don’t have to worry

s. Carol L. Monroe – what it is doing is showing it in next year’s taxes. So when you go into our system and look

it doesn’t show in ‘06 pay ‘07 it shows in ‘07 pay ‘08 as a credit into next year instead of a current payment.

Now what is going to happen is they are going to wipe out what was done today (in essence voiding the

transaction) so it can be re-posted to the current year.

t. Donald “Butch” Williams – I want to know if this is going to get fixed and I want to know that no one in

Franklin County that has paid their taxes today it going to get a penalty notice.

u. Carol L. Monroe – no

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – (to Rebecca Oglesby) are they? Are they!? Are you going to send a penalty notice?

Lets’ fix it and for Christ sakes, take care of the tax payers.

w. Rebecca Oglesby – today we could not tell (who paid)

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – it was not a software problem?

y. Rebecca Oglesby – it was a calendar problem

z. Carol L. Monroe – say you are looking at an excel spreadsheet. The first section says 2007 billing cycle, they

the fall/spring then has you date. We did the 2007 billing cycle for spring and fall installment we put 11/13 for

beginning and ending. Underneath of that it jumps to 2005-we didn’t touch 2005 stuff. Apparently when it was

programmed, those columns were keyed in incorrectly. We didn’t know that the 2005 (date) was supposed to

be 2007; that was something that Manatron caught Friday because some of their counties had a Friday deadline.

So every county that they serve had this issue, they were trying to notify the counties who had a deadline of

today to go on and change that so they didn’t have this issue.

aa. Rebecca Oglesby – the calendar is not on my side, it is on their side. I haven’t had internet for a month

bb.Carol L. Monroe – did you call RBSK?

cc. Rebecca Oglesby – I call RSABK and they tell me to call citadel-I will just call the bank

dd.Donald “Butch” Williams – I understand your frustration. Whatever we got to do to work together to get it

fixed. Do you need anything from council?

ee. Rebecca Oglesby – don’t know what Manatron is going to do.

ff. Donald “Butch” Williams – lets get through this some how. I watch I.T. guys work everyday and they can do

amazing things from a thousand miles away. Since they know they had the problem they should have a

solution.

VII. E.P.A. lawsuit

a. Thomas Wilson – Barnes and Thornburg says we are at the end of the track.. EPA wants $350,000.00 and

Barnes and Thornburg says to defend us in federal court it will cost three to four hundred thousand.

b. Jeff Koch – we are not going to be able to come up with that

c. Thomas Wilson – they want us to bond it.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – when we were on that conference call I thought maybe we could get closer to two.

The E.P.A. knows we are going to spend three hundred thousand one way or the other.

e. Eric Roberts – even if we would win in court, the cost of an appeal.

f. Thomas Wilson – do you want us to tell the attorneys to settle?

g. Carroll Lanning – that would be the easiest and quickest (flip tape)

h. Donald “Butch” Williams – if we settle are we through

i. Eric Roberts – with that location

VIII. Assessor Compliance

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads email about assessor; we are making progress

IX. Pre-appeal meeting

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – did everything go ok today

b. Thomas Wilson – yes

X. Radio system

a. Tracy Lightfield – up and running. Officers have committed how much clearer it is

XI. Commissioners

a. Don Vonder Meulen – Judge Snow has granted John Worth fifteen minutes to argue for monetary settlement

and partial payment to me. I have never asked for back pay. Don’t think that we should be paid for time we did

not serve. Gene wants to know if he should go up.

b. Eric Roberts – Franklin county has not been brought in as a party.

c. Thomas Wilson – we haven’t been asked to show up.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – if you are going to be involved in a suit, you would be subpoenaed. If it should go

further and we be named. If gene wants to go (on his own time) I am fine with that.

e. Don Vonder Meulen – it is going to cost the county nothing for gene to go up and sit.

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – if it is going to cost us nothing, fine I am not going to say pay him to go up there.

We have no more attorney money, you took it all.

XII. Appeal

a. Bill – I just wondered how many people are going to go from council.

b. Donald “Butch” Williams- I stand on my vote but county council decided to go for this and in no way is my not

going have anything to do with this. Eric ready sent me an email last week. All the council should not be

together on something like that. They didn’t want a whole room full of people.

XIII. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – outa here

To be approved 12/11/07

 

 

 Franklin County Council December 11, 2007

County Council meeting room @ 7:00 p.m.

Those present:

Donald “Butch” Williams Elected officials:

Brad Spurlock Franklin County Chief Auditor: Veronica Voelker

Hollie Sintz

Kenneth Rosenberger

Jeff Koch

Carroll Lanning

*Donald “Butch” Williams opens meeting to with the Pledge of Allegiance and calls meeting to order.

I. Minutes (November 13, 2007)

a. Hollie Sintz – motion to moved the minutes

b. Jeff Koch – second the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried

II. E.M.S. Secretary (2008)

a. Ed Hollenbach – this year a secretary was approved for E.M.A. $24,960.00; since that time there has been a change. I am giving that back to the county. They have established a pay for a EMS secretary. That is not to say I won’t come in next year and say I need a part time administrative assistant. I don’t anything about the legalities of this. have abstain $22,500.00 pay as secretary

b. Donald “Butch” Williams- some of the pay was coming from some place else

c. Ed Hollenbach – yea, it won’t be that way now. I got the last big check today ($20,300.00)

d. Donald “Butch” Williams- so the secretary will be totally paid by the county general fund

e. Ed Hollenbach – yes; now you are only paying about half

f. Donald “Butch” Williams – so you are saying it not there now, basically council would be looking at a whole new deal, will this person be the E.M.S. secretary.

g. Thomas Wilson – our contract says we will supply a secretary (for E.M.S.)

h. Donald “Butch” Williams- it up to council

i. Brad Spurlock – it is going to change the budget

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – yes, we are not going to be reimbursed; regardless of what the contract says, that was not the deal

k. Hollie Sintz-will that be in the commissioners’ budget?

l. Roy Rosenberger – what if E.M.S. picks up 50% of the salary

m. Donald “Butch” Williams – we would be in good shape; we would be right back to where we were

n. Brad Spurlock- if the money budget is it okay

o. Donald “Butch” Williams – we are in agreement in opposed

p. Susan Jones- budget E.M.S. or out commissioner

q. Hollie Sintz – I think out of the commissioner budget

r. Susan Jones – someone has to sign the payroll (that she has worked)

s. Roy Rosenberger – check or take out of the commissioners whatever make it easier

t. Donald “Butch” Williams – I like Gene (Stewart) give us advise to which way for paper trail.

u. Brad Spurlock – did you advertise?

v. Roy Rosenberger – yes, it was advertised as a county position

w. Brad Spurlock – makes a motion to approve as a county job

x. Donald “Butch” Williams – the E.M.A. secretary will become the E.M.S. secretary and the E.M.S. will pay for half of the salary

y. Hollie Sintz- seconds the motion

z. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor; motion carried

III. Transfer of Funds/ Resolution 2007-33

a. Donald “Butch” Williams- reads resolution

b. Hollie Sintz- moves the motion

c. Jeff Koch- second the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams- all in motion, motion carried

IV. Additional Appropriations/ Resolution 2007-32a

a. Donald “Butch” Williams- reads the additional

b. Jeff Koch- moves the motion

c. Kenneth Rosenberger- seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams- all in favor, motion carried

V. Additional Appropriations/ Resolution 2007-32b

a. Donald “Butch” Williams- reads the additional

b. Brad Spurlock- goes to question, is the money here

c. Donald “Butch” Williams- needs to amend the additional in

d. Brad Spurlock- motion to amend to $17,000.00

e. Hollie Sintz seconds the motion

f. Donald “Butch” Williams-all in favor, motion carried

g. Hollie Sintz -to motion the resolution 2007-32b

h. Kenneth Rosenberger-seconds the motion

 

 

i. Donald “Butch” Williams- all in favor, motion carried

VI. 2008 Salary Ordinance / Ordinance 2007-21

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – reads the salary ordinance

b. Tracey Littlefield – questions the part-time on 911 dispatchers, don’t know what to do for the holiday pay for 2008, for 2007 I am short I don’t know what to do.

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – a total needs to be there on the salary ordinance

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – going have to amend for a new salary ordinance to change the holiday pay for 911 and sheriff

e. Hollie Sintz – highway sect. amount biweekly is not correct with the salary pay, 17000 budget was the budget amount the was requested at budget time.

f. Brad Spurlock – question deputy the probation wages

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – probation wages should be at 2 on the sheriff 105, clerk add a deputy so need to add 6th deputy.

h. Carroll Lanning – small animal control why is it out of two places.

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – which one is right, at budget time the request was zero on the 130-4155.00

j. Brad Spurlock – motion to with approve the salary ordinance with changes made

k. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

l. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried

m. Donald “Butch” Williams – also need to change the 129-4155.00 to $4,000.00 as request at budget time; needs to the contingency part in 151-4120.00 still need to question in January

VII. Reedy and Peters Invoices *note* – Auditor does not agree with time spent/documents were sent numerous times

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – question the bill that Eric Reedy, the bill three invoice, reads the invoices; Jeff Peters called me the other day and I didn’t answer because I didn’t want to be charged.

b. Brad Spurlock – We need to figure out what we are going to pay and what we are not going to pay. I don’t agree the out of the pocket the expense, we need to know what are we going to pay for

c. John Estridge – questions the EPA lawsuit and the situation.

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – explains that it is not; we got a letter from the EMS board and that part was withdrawn. Since there was no time to have an official meeting we told him to go ahead with appeal and the DLGF board voted four to three against it. I took it upon myself that when he finished the appeals process we (county and reedy and peters) we were done. I told him we are on hold at this point; this part we told him to do

e. Brad Spurlock – made motion to pay the bill to get it over with

f. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

g. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried. We agreed to spend it but this is a lesson we are going to get billed every time we talk to them

VIII. Southeastern Indiana Solid Waste District Appointment for 2008 (Kenneth Rosenberger 2007)

a. Hollie Sintz – motion to re-appoint Kenneth Rosenberger to the board

b. Jeff Koch – seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried

IX. Brookville Police Claim

a. Donald “Butch” Williams – explains the claim; $117.00 – fine paid to county general fund and the police department files claim to get it out of general fund

b. Brad Spurlock – motion to sign the claim

c. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

d. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried

X. Commissioner Pay for Louis Linkel for balance of 2007

a. John O. Worth – Lou has filed that claim for the balance of his salary; the Judge is ruling-not really saying that either person was wrong. Essentially Lou lost his salary for that year. It is the right thing to do.

b. Carroll Lanning – can he actually sign the claim? Commissioner sign the claim, think it should go to commissioner then council. We can’t pay them, we only appropriate the money.

c. Jeff Koch – one person can serve, then one person can be paid; we are dealing with budgets and there is a budget for only three Commissioners not four

d. Kenneth Rosenberger – he should be paid; the people of Franklin County elected him and expect him to be paid

e. Hollie Sintz- explains the claim signature

f. Carroll Lanning – is this the legal way to do it?

g. Hollie Sintz – explains

h. Gene Stewart – there is not any right or wrong way

i. Donald “Butch” Williams – the buck stops here

j. Council discussion on the pay is correct

k. Donald “Butch” Williams – let cut the bull shit, are you going to want yours if we pay him, (said over and over)

l. Don Vonder Meulen – I think that would be fair

m. Donald “Butch” Williams – do we pay one commissioner for a year or do we pay two

n. Brad Spurlock – if we pay them where is going to come from

o. Donald “Butch” Williams – county general; additional appropriation

p. Brad Spurlock – I have thought about this all day; I agree with Kenneth Rosenberger

q. Kenneth Rosenberger – motion to pay claim to Lou Linkel his $12,995.00

r. Brad Spurlock – seconds the motion

s. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, Carroll Lanning is abstain; – I am agreeing to pay it too motion carried

t. Brad Spurlock – to avoid anything in the future, motion pay Don Vonder Meulen balance time that is left

u. Hollie Sintz – seconds the motion

v. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor-2 all opposed;-4 Jeff Koch, Carroll Lanning, Kenneth Rosenberger, Donald “Butch” Williams

 

 

XI. Ordinance 2007-22/ Ripley County Enhanced 911 Emergency Telephone System

a. Tracey Lightfield – for the extension of Ripley county enhanced the 911 emergency telephone system with Franklin county to replace ordinance in 1993-07

b. Tracey Lightfield – explains the ordinance between county

c. Brad Spurlock- questions the ordinance.

d. Tracy Lightfield – the verbal agreement and a hand shake, Thomas Wilson remembers signing the claims

e. Donald “Butch” Williams – they send claim?

f. Tracy Lightfield – yea, but no invoice, they are up to date.

g. Donald “Butch” Williams- needs to update the ordinance

h. Carroll Lanning- move to accept ordinance 2007-22

i. Kenneth Rosenberger – seconds the motion

j. Donald “Butch” Williams – all in favor, motion carried

XII. Adjourn into Executive Session

a. Brad Spurlock- motion to adjourn

b. Hollie Sintz- seconds the motion

c. Donald “Butch” Williams – adjourned

 

Executive Session in Nancy Hamilton Room immediately following.

Those also present:

Susan Jones, Auditor Elect John O. Worth Jeff Jones Bill Schirmer

Don Vonder Meulen Roy Rosenberger Ed Hollenbach Thomas Wilson

John Cookendorfer Eric Roberts

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 (Special) Franklin County Council Conference Room at 3:00 p.m.

December 27, 2007

Those present:

Hollie Sintz Franklin County Auditor:

Kenneth Rosenberger Carol L. Monroe

Carroll Lanning

Martha Bergman

* Hollie Sintz opens with pledge

I. Resolution 2007-34 (Emergency)

a. Hollie Sintz reads resolution

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to accept resolution

c. Carroll Lanning – seconds

d. Hollie Sintz – motion carried

II. Resolution 2007-35 (Transfer of Funds)

a. Hollie Sintz – reads resolution

b. Kenneth Rosenberger – we are too easy on the budget if they have this much money left

c. Carroll Lanning – move to accept resolution

d. Martha Bergman – seconds the motion

e. Hollie Sintz – motion carried

III. Adjourn

a. Kenneth Rosenberger – move to adjourn

b. Carroll Lanning – seconds the motion

c. Hollie Sintz – we’re done!

 

AYE NAY

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Franklin County Auditor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

 
 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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